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22nd December 2005, 04:14 PM
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| 6 npc designer reviews at the same time Maybe i'm missing something, but isn't it an amazing coincidence(im fighting the instinct to put double quotes around this word) that NPC Designer got Six(Edit: thought it was 5) 5-star reviews one after another in the reviews database in under 24 hours?
weird.
lior.
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22nd December 2005, 04:17 PM
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22nd December 2005, 05:34 PM
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| I've been using NPC Designer for about 6 months or so now and I can vouch for those reviews. It's a great product.
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22nd December 2005, 06:39 PM
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| Personally, I'd only count one of those as an actual review. The others weren't very informative.
Almost wish ENWorld had that "was this review helpful to you?" button that Amazon does.
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22nd December 2005, 06:42 PM
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| Got to admit that I'd pretty much ignore reviews when its the only thing that user has ever posted at ENWorld. The reviews from the regular posters I'll have a higher trust in as at least I know those guys are not just posting it purely to hype the product.
Actually a better strategy for a publisher would be to have reviews posted every few days so that the product name keeps showing up on the front page. |
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22nd December 2005, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Zulithe | Access Denied! Can you tell us the gist of it? |
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22nd December 2005, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Vascant, on RPGAttitude If anyone has not noticed NPC Designer is now also available at ENWorld Game Store, this also has opened up room for some reviews. In 5 months the only person who has really given any kind of a review has been Mr Cook on his own site, be nice if some other users would share their honest review NPC Designer. | Each of the reviewers is a seperate user of NPCDesigner. |
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22nd December 2005, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JimAde Access Denied! Can you tell us the gist of it? |
From the thread... Quote:
If anyone has not noticed NPC Designer is now also available at ENWorld Game Store, this also has opened up room for some reviews. In 5 months the only person who has really given any kind of a review has been Mr Cook on his own site, be nice if some other users would share their honest review NPC Designer.
The link: http://www.enworld.org/reviews.php?d...productid=1605 06
Version 1.0.110
1. NPC.ModWeapon Enhanced with two new tags: attackbonus and damagebonus
2. All of the Half Dragon Paragon Scripts have been updated (Mbaima)
3. Harpy Script Added (Redshirt)
4. Blind dog, Hell Hound, Worg and Winter Wolf Scripts Added (Mbaima)
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22nd December 2005, 08:47 PM
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| Ah. I get it. So Vascant posted in his own forums saying, "Hey the products not getting a lot of reviews." and people responded. Seems reasonable. That certainly explains the spike in reviews. |
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22nd December 2005, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JimAde Ah. I get it. So Vascant posted in his own forums saying, "Hey the products not getting a lot of reviews." and people responded. Seems reasonable. That certainly explains the spike in reviews. | Personally, I have absolutely no problem with his request, nor do I think he is responsible with 6 reviews suddenly popping up on enworld.
What I have a problem with is the quality of the content. At least 3 of them are more like comments rather than reviews.
Is it really a review if someone gives the book 1 star and only says "this sucks"? Conversely is it really a review if someone gives a book 5 stars and only says "this book rulez d00ds"?
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22nd December 2005, 09:12 PM
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| Well, I guess now ENworld needs a "review of the reviews" section.
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22nd December 2005, 09:15 PM
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| | Wanderer of the Underdark
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| I am responsible in a way, I wrote the blurb on my update email to my current customers. It was not on the forum because I felt it only had merit with customers. Personally I like to hear what my current customers have to say, good and bad, it helps me plan out what do or add next.
In truth the review is not just for you but for me as well, personally if you are not going to take 2 seconds and download the demo and learn for yourself then NPC Designer won't solve your problems. The reviews do help me learn more about my customers and people in general. Selling on ENGS is a test for me because I have been selling on my site for 5 months and things have been going very well. I am a professional programmer though and not one into business, so rather then stop selling it Chris suggested this would allow me to get away from the business aspects of it and back into more programming.
Here is what I have learned, you can't do a free project because people will assume it is worthless without even looking and you can't create a good project because people will assume it is a scam. At this time I am asking, why am I even doing it? |
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22nd December 2005, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JimAde Ah. I get it. So Vascant posted in his own forums saying, "Hey the products not getting a lot of reviews." and people responded. Seems reasonable. That certainly explains the spike in reviews. | Nah, he didn't say that. The day the product was released Vascant posted the message letting forum users know the program was now available at enworld.
The reason why so many people posted on the same day (the day of its release on Enworld), is because the product has been out for several months and has gathered a large userbase of happy clients.
I've never posted a review before. Part of it is my own cockiness. I get paid anywhere between 500 to 2000 dollars an article for newspapers and magazines. When I write something I want to make sure its thorough and honest. I've liked a lot of products (Egyptian Hamunaptra, Tabletop adventures pdfs, Buy the Numbers, EOM ect), but have rarely been pleased by a product as much as npc designer. Its the only e;ectronic product i'd say that can be helpful to anyone who games.
I also have a personal appreciation for Vascant. This started out as a sideproject for him. I know with my side projects i either don't finish them or do them only for myself. So when he started taking this commercial at the fans request I thought it was pretty admirable. Then he started answering personal requests from other users such as making it compatable with dmgenie, which in itself all i wanted, a statblock that could translate to my campaign management program. Then he only charged 15 bucks for the stuff, when just about everyone agreed that the program is at least worth 30 dollars with all the ad ons.
I read the other two reviews and wanted to do a more professional piece that could be honest and detail the positives about the program. I almost feel bad that I havn't done more with the other programs I like.
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22nd December 2005, 09:58 PM
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| I didn't mean to imply anything. Vascant, I hope you're not too discouraged. It is, indeed, a thankless job trying to produce anything for gamers.  On the other hand, you must be pleased with the tenor of the responses you've been getting in the review forum and here. I have tried NPC Designer and it seems to be a solid piece of work. |
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22nd December 2005, 10:13 PM
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| Looks like several of those reviews are healthy enough to avoid being asked by Psion to beef them up or risk the axe. It's difficult to get attention for a new company or product these days and NPC Designer (from RPGAttitude) has managed to turn some heads. I'll be sure to take a closer look, particularly since Pogre and DonTadow have taken the time to review this generator and endorse it so fervently. Well Done! (rom90125's review seems meaty enough to avoid being deleted, too, but I've just not been aware of rom90125's posts until now. No offence, of course. The other three, Gammo, helcat_74, and jhartaine, will probably be asked to edit their reviews and expand on them.) |
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22nd December 2005, 10:32 PM
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| I honestly have had quite an enjoyable experience thanks to the many people who have tried NPC Designer. They are the people who have turned what was released on August 1st to what is available now. I think what bothers me the most is how I see this from my eyes, If I seen 6 people review like that.. I would go see why before jumping to the opinion there is a scam. Since I have a Demo available, this is key to showing me really fast I am not dealing with something other then what it is, customers pleased with a product. I didn't see anyone jump Mr Cook about his review of NPC Designer and if you think those comments on ENWorld say something, read his too. NPC Designer was the first piece of software that he has commented on in his Line of Sight and no I have not given out a single copy for a review. DonTadow even put what he thought was the only lacking feature of NPC Designer, and that was added today in update 112 (Thats 112 updates since August 1st). Thats who I am as a person and how I handle my product line, anyone will tell you this has been done since the start of NPC Designer.
Just think, you have 1% of my customer base with a comment within a day of my email and they are worth more then most reviews because something has to be said about a person who paid for a product and likes/dislikes it. There are too many reviewers who do it just for the free products. If you wish to prove the current reviews incorrect, by all means do it. The only thing you will do is help me create better software.
Personally, I have achieved my goal because NPC Designer is everything I hoped it to be and to that I think a lot of people. |
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22nd December 2005, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Vascant I honestly have had quite an enjoyable experience thanks to the many people who have tried NPC Designer. They are the people who have turned what was released on August 1st to what is available now. I think what bothers me the most is how I see this from my eyes, If I seen 6 people review like that.. I would go see why before jumping to the opinion there is a scam. Since I have a Demo available, this is key to showing me really fast I am not dealing with something other then what it is, customers pleased with a product. I didn't see anyone jump Mr Cook about his review of NPC Designer and if you think those comments on ENWorld say something, read his too. NPC Designer was the first piece of software that he has commented on in his Line of Sight and no I have not given out a single copy for a review. DonTadow even put what he thought was the only lacking feature of NPC Designer, and that was added today in update 112 (Thats 112 updates since August 1st). Thats who I am as a person and how I handle my product line, anyone will tell you this has been done since the start of NPC Designer.
Just think, you have 1% of my customer base with a comment within a day of my email and they are worth more then most reviews because something has to be said about a person who paid for a product and likes/dislikes it. There are too many reviewers who do it just for the free products. If you wish to prove the current reviews incorrect, by all means do it. The only thing you will do is help me create better software.
Personally, I have achieved my goal because NPC Designer is everything I hoped it to be and to that I think a lot of people. |
Did my post offend you in some way? |
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22nd December 2005, 11:11 PM
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| | Wanderer of the Underdark
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| Oh no, in fact I had not read your post until after I posted mine. I traded all my posting and people skills for coding a while back.. *chuckles*
I like the reviews just for a different reason, I have taken a while to understand my users and if certain people post 2 lines, thats a lot for them. Sometimes the smaller reviews att merit to the larger and more indepth. The last thing anyone should expect from me, is normal.
In all honesty, having a good day and if this thread had some else's name in it I would avoid it like the plague but it doesn't so I have to defend what I have worked a year and half to achieve. |
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22nd December 2005, 11:31 PM
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| Don't sweat it. Some of the reviews are a little thin and will probably have to be fixed or removed. Happens often enough so no big deal. There aren't any misconceptions or complaints about the actual product here so don't feel defensive. Just enjoy the added attention this brings to your hardwork (and have yourself a Happy Holiday!)  |
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23rd December 2005, 12:06 AM
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| Thanks, DonTadow, Rom, and Porge for the reviews.
The rest be advised... well, Mark gave you the idea. 
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