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Old 6th February 2007, 09:29 AM   #16 (permalink)
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These two posts do not seem to mesh very well. And you seem to be avoiding the question.

The question is this: If, as you say, retailers are not important to the site (publishers are), why do you have the requirement that publishers link to a specific retailer in their posts (assuming the product is available there)? You haven't answered that question.

I'm not "very excited". You just seem to be dodging the question, that's all.
Is he dodging the question, or are you just not getting the answer you want?
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Old 6th February 2007, 10:38 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Given that Ronin Arts products are no longer availabe at RPGNow, I'd say it's rather important for Phil to accounce to the market from where his products will be available in the future.
And therein lies the point. As you say it's rather important for Phil, not the rest of us. Those of us who have followed Ronin Arts know where to go and find them. For those that don't know Ronin Arts, then that's for Phil to enlighten them. EN World has no responsibility to Phil, Ronin Arts or any other publisher or organization.
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Old 6th February 2007, 10:43 AM   #18 (permalink)
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These two posts do not seem to mesh very well. And you seem to be avoiding the question.
Morrus doesn't owe you an answer. He dictates the terms of the site and we may not always agree, but that doesn't change that fact. Badgering him here and elsewhere for an answer he is so obviously not going to give you is both rude and futile.
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Old 6th February 2007, 12:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
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These two posts do not seem to mesh very well. And you seem to be avoiding the question.

The question is this: If, as you say, retailers are not important to the site (publishers are), why do you have the requirement that publishers link to a specific retailer in their posts (assuming the product is available there)? You haven't answered that question.

I'm not "very excited". You just seem to be dodging the question, that's all.
I'm not "avoiding the question". I am, now for the third time, refusing to answer the question for reasons explained elsewhere. Drop it now, please.

You're welcome to assume any reason you like, as long as your follow the conditions under which you're permitted to post free ads here at EN World. It's that simple.

Even if I *could* answer you - I don't know you, and would certainly not discuss my private arrangements with you*, let alone in public. I consider this issue closed.


*PS, would you email me a copy of your bank statement, please? Or, better yet, post it here for everyone to see!

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Old 6th February 2007, 12:12 PM   #20 (permalink)
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And therein lies the point. As you say it's rather important for Phil, not the rest of us. Those of us who have followed Ronin Arts know where to go and find them. For those that don't know Ronin Arts, then that's for Phil to enlighten them. EN World has no responsibility to Phil, Ronin Arts or any other publisher or organization.
Pretty much. Much as I like Phil and other publishers, I do feel I need to occasionally mention that EN World's purpose isn't to generate sales for them. That's a beneficial side-effect at best.
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Old 6th February 2007, 12:58 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm not "avoiding the question". I am, now for the third time, refusing to answer the question for reasons explained elsewhere. Drop it now, please.

You're welcome to assume any reason you like, as long as your follow the conditions under which you're permitted to post free ads here at EN World. It's that simple.

Even if I *could* answer you - I don't know you, and would certainly not discuss my private arrangements with you*, let alone in public. I consider this issue closed.
Thank you. If you refuse to answer, that's fine, but previous posts did not indicate that you refused to answer; they indicated you were confused by the question. I was trying to be as clear as I could, since you kept responding "I'm confused" rather than "I choose not to answer that".
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And therein lies the point. As you say it's rather important for Phil, not the rest of us. Those of us who have followed Ronin Arts know where to go and find them. For those that don't know Ronin Arts, then that's for Phil to enlighten them. EN World has no responsibility to Phil, Ronin Arts or any other publisher or organization.
And one way in which Phil enlightens people is through this site, which is standard practice for many d20 publishers. He obviousky has an interest in any posts related to Ronin Arts getting maximum exposure, and I don't see how you can fault him for that.
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Old 6th February 2007, 01:04 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Thank you. If you refuse to answer, that's fine, but previous posts did not indicate that you refused to answer; they indicated you were confused by the question. I was trying to be as clear as I could, since you kept responding "I'm confused" rather than "I choose not to answer that".
I'm sorry. It was sarcasm; I wasn't confused. I should have been more blunt from the outset - thats my usual mistake; I generally hope people will take the gentle hint and drop it before I have to be rude. I'd already refused to answer the question elsewhere (and, for all your protestations, I can't see how it isn't asking for the same information refused politely elsewhere).

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I'm sorry. It was sarcasm; I wasn't confused. I should have been more blunt from the outset - thats my usual mistake; I generally hope people will take the gentle hint and drop it before I have to be rude. I'd already refused to answer the question elsewhere (and, for all your protestations, I can't see how it isn't asking for the same information refused politely elsewhere).
I can see (now) how you could consider it the "same information", but I had no way of knowing that. In my mind, I was approaching the same general topic from two very different angles, and I had no way of knowing, until you told me, that the answer would be the same.

Thanks for the sarcasm, by the way. It was much appreciated. It certainly helped move the discussion along.

That, too, is sarcasm. Or is it sardonicism? I can never remember.
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Old 6th February 2007, 03:03 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Thanks for the sarcasm, by the way. It was much appreciated. It certainly helped move the discussion along.
Like I said - sorry. What with Rasyr banging on about Everything That's Wrong With The ENnies, you pushing me for information I'm not able or prepared to give out, Phil being... Phil, people in that other (private) location demanding I explain things to them which I have no intention of explaining, the last 24 hours I've felt very crotchety.

On the good side, I realised again how cool people were while I was thinking about everything folks volunteerd to do for EN World and the ENnies at Gen Con the last few years, and how they're already starting to volunteer again this year. An amazing community. So it's not all bad!
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Like I said - sorry. What with Rasyr banging on about Everything That's Wrong With The ENnies, you pushing me for information I'm not able or prepared to give out, Phil being... Phil, people in that other (private) location demanding I explain things to them which I have no intention of explaining, the last 24 hours I've felt very crotchety.

On the good side, I realised again how cool people were while I was thinking about everything folks volunteerd to do for EN World and the ENnies at Gen Con the last few years, and how they're already starting to volunteer again this year. An amazing community. So it's not all bad!
Well, if it makes you feel any better I think the ENnies are great!
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