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Sorry, I'm not going to bind myself to any rules or a policy, and I reserve final judgement on what makes the news page and what doesn't. That means 4E rumours will - much to many peoples' chagrin.
Help who? I'm not even sure what the angle of the question is. I can't think of any particular examples off the top of my head, although from the sounds of it Phil has something in mind. I think he'd need to be more specific; the question's just too vague for me to answer.
I'm just confused. I had thought that Ronin Arts leaving RPGNow would be news. I mean, with approximately 5% of the PDFs at the site, and ranked #2 for all-time sales, Ronin Arts has been an important part of the PDF industry. I doubt few would argue this point.
Any top 20 company leaving RPGNow is at least as much news as the announcement of a new $1 product is.
I'm just trying to get a better handle on what is and isn't news to the community.
I'm just confused. I had thought that Ronin Arts leaving RPGNow would be news. I mean, with approximately 5% of the PDFs at the site, and ranked #2 for all-time sales, Ronin Arts has been an important part of the PDF industry. I doubt few would argue this point.
Any top 20 company leaving RPGNow is at least as much news as the announcement of a new $1 product is.
I'm just trying to get a better handle on what is and isn't news to the community.
We just don't cover retailers unless it's something *really* exciting. We don't even do it for WotC who are EN World's "biggest news" source. The focus is on the products; if someone decides they want to buy, say MMII, it'll take them 3 seconds to find out where to buy it. On a lesser scale, same thing with PDF publishers.
There's a million online retailers out there, and just as many brick & mortar retailers. It's not a subject I want to start getting involved in.
We just don't cover retailers unless it's something *really* exciting. We don't even do it for WotC who are EN World's "biggest news" source. The focus is on the products; if someone decides they want to buy, say MMII, it'll take them 3 seconds to find out where to buy it. On a lesser scale, same thing with PDF publishers.
There's a million online retailers out there, and just as many brick & mortar retailers. It's not a subject I want to start getting involved in.
There's a million online retailers out there, and just as many brick & mortar retailers. It's not a subject I want to start getting involved in.
With that in mind, could you comment on the requirement that posts about new products point to the RPGNow affiliate on ENWorld (if they are available there)? If you don't want to get involved with retailers, why is this a requirement?
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With that in mind, could you comment on the requirement that posts about new products point to the RPGNow affiliate on ENWorld (if they are available there)? If you don't want to get involved with retailers, why is this a requirement?
I'm confused. Do you imagine my response will be different from earlier today when you asked me this same question?
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With all due respect, Phil, Ronin Arts just aren't that newsworthy. You might be a big fish in the PDF pond - but that really is a very small pond. So you left RPGNow. Big deal. I'll get over it. It's not something that many people could care less about one way or another. It's not like you've gone out of business or anything. You've just moved house.
I like Ronin Arts. I've bought your products. I'd like to know what you're releasing now and in the future. But that's it. The rest is your business.
I'm confused. Do you imagine my response will be different from earlier today when you asked me this same question?
Well, that was a different forum and a rather different question.
The question is: if retailers do not matter to you (are not newsworthy, as you say), why do you require that publishers link to your RPGNow mirror in their posts? If it's only about the product, why does it matter where they link to?
With all due respect, Phil, Ronin Arts just aren't that newsworthy. You might be a big fish in the PDF pond - but that really is a very small pond. So you left RPGNow. Big deal. I'll get over it. It's not something that many people could care less about one way or another. It's not like you've gone out of business or anything. You've just moved house.
I like Ronin Arts. I've bought your products. I'd like to know what you're releasing now and in the future. But that's it. The rest is your business.
Given that Ronin Arts products are no longer availabe at RPGNow, I'd say it's rather important for Phil to accounce to the market from where his products will be available in the future.
It's not that he thinks people care about it one way or the other, but he wants prospective customers to know where to get his stuff. It's that simple.
Well, that was a different forum and a rather different question.
The question is: if retailers do not matter to you (are not newsworthy, as you say), why do you require that publishers link to your RPGNow mirror in their posts? If it's only about the product, why does it matter where they link to?
Still confused. I don't post the threads in the Publisher's forum. Publishers do. I (vicariously, through the newshounds) decide what goes on the news page.
What gets posted in the Publishers forum does not get filtered by any criteria of newsworthiness.
Or, in short: news page = newsworthiness. Publishers forum != news page != newsworthiness.
You seem very excited about this subject. Do you feel you're not getting your money's worth or something?
Sorry, I'm not going to bind myself to any rules or a policy, and I reserve final judgement on what makes the news page and what doesn't.
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Still confused. I don't post the threads in the Publisher's forum. Publishers do. I (vicariously, through the newshounds) decide what goes on the news page.
What gets posted in the Publishers forum does not get filtered by any criteria of newsworthiness.
Or, in short: news page = newsworthiness. Publishers forum != news page != newsworthiness.
These two posts do not seem to mesh very well. And you seem to be avoiding the question.
The question is this: If, as you say, retailers are not important to the site (publishers are), why do you have the requirement that publishers link to a specific retailer in their posts (assuming the product is available there)? You haven't answered that question.
I'm not "very excited". You just seem to be dodging the question, that's all.
These two posts do not seem to mesh very well. And you seem to be avoiding the question.
The question is this: If, as you say, retailers are not important to the site (publishers are), why do you have the requirement that publishers link to a specific retailer in their posts (assuming the product is available there)? You haven't answered that question.
I'm not "very excited". You just seem to be dodging the question, that's all.
Is he dodging the question, or are you just not getting the answer you want?
Given that Ronin Arts products are no longer availabe at RPGNow, I'd say it's rather important for Phil to accounce to the market from where his products will be available in the future.
And therein lies the point. As you say it's rather important for Phil, not the rest of us. Those of us who have followed Ronin Arts know where to go and find them. For those that don't know Ronin Arts, then that's for Phil to enlighten them. EN World has no responsibility to Phil, Ronin Arts or any other publisher or organization.
These two posts do not seem to mesh very well. And you seem to be avoiding the question.
Morrus doesn't owe you an answer. He dictates the terms of the site and we may not always agree, but that doesn't change that fact. Badgering him here and elsewhere for an answer he is so obviously not going to give you is both rude and futile.
These two posts do not seem to mesh very well. And you seem to be avoiding the question.
The question is this: If, as you say, retailers are not important to the site (publishers are), why do you have the requirement that publishers link to a specific retailer in their posts (assuming the product is available there)? You haven't answered that question.
I'm not "very excited". You just seem to be dodging the question, that's all.
I'm not "avoiding the question". I am, now for the third time, refusing to answer the question for reasons explained elsewhere. Drop it now, please.
You're welcome to assume any reason you like, as long as your follow the conditions under which you're permitted to post free ads here at EN World. It's that simple.
Even if I *could* answer you - I don't know you, and would certainly not discuss my private arrangements with you*, let alone in public. I consider this issue closed.
*PS, would you email me a copy of your bank statement, please? Or, better yet, post it here for everyone to see!
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Last edited by Morrus; 6th February 2007 at 12:21 PM..
And therein lies the point. As you say it's rather important for Phil, not the rest of us. Those of us who have followed Ronin Arts know where to go and find them. For those that don't know Ronin Arts, then that's for Phil to enlighten them. EN World has no responsibility to Phil, Ronin Arts or any other publisher or organization.
Pretty much. Much as I like Phil and other publishers, I do feel I need to occasionally mention that EN World's purpose isn't to generate sales for them. That's a beneficial side-effect at best.
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