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Old 11th July 2008, 07:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Front Page Really slow to load

Iwas wondering if anyone else is noticing that ENWorld is really slow to load at first. I'm using IE 7 (I believe). No other websites I visitare slow, but when I want to come and visit ENWorld I can go make a pot of coffee before the page loads. [Not kidding] Just wondering if I'm the only one or not. If Iam the only one, an ideas why?

I should also say that once it does load it navigates fairly well. Perhaps a little slow, but nothing like the first page.

Anyway, thanks for your time.

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Old 11th July 2008, 10:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have IE 7 and what you're describing has happened to me. Usually what happens is that the site takes a while to load at first but then it moves along fairly well after that.

However, if I step away from my PC for some reason and then come back to it, then I have a heck of a time getting it to load again.

It is almost like it gets stuck. I usually have to close my browser, reload it and then visit other sites for 15 to 20 minutes before I can get EN World to load again. I'm not sure what to make of it since it almost always comes back.

And note that this isn't always during the "heavy traffic" times of day. Well, not unless you consider 10pm to 1am MST to be a "heavy traffic" time period.

It's frustrating.
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Old 12th July 2008, 03:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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MySQL is getting overloaded and resetting itself on 4-6 hour intervals. Looking for a solution.
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Old 13th July 2008, 09:54 AM   #4 (permalink)
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MySQL is getting overloaded and resetting itself on 4-6 hour intervals. Looking for a solution.
That would explain a lot. Let us know how this situation develops.

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For me, it's 3 a.m., and I'm definitely getting some lag. It is loading, and I can post but it takes a while, especially when posting on the blogs.
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Old 14th July 2008, 03:24 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Darn. I just got on and it took no time to load. I came right here to tell about my victory and then the log-in page took forever. But, at least it was a different page to load slowly.

Sorry I couldn't give you all the good news and compliments I had hoped to give.
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Old 14th July 2008, 03:52 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I've gotten into the habit of having a sudoku window open in another tab. I click a page on EN World, wait a moment, and if it doesn't load immediately I switch to sudoku and wait. I'm not sure why my browser is willing to wait that long, but sometimes I think it can take 5 minutes or more for pages to load.
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Old 14th July 2008, 04:35 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Made a setting change - let's see if it helps.
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Made a setting change - let's see if it helps.
Cool. I'll try punishing it for a while and let you know my results.
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Old 14th July 2008, 05:33 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Things seem better. I upped the max connections from 100 to 1000 and the keepalive timeout from 2 seconds to 4. I had lowered them because I thought they where bogging the machine down.
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Things seem better. I upped the max connections from 100 to 1000 and the keepalive timeout from 2 seconds to 4. I had lowered them because I thought they where bogging the machine down.
It seems to be working a little bit better. I lost one post to the lag and had to reload my browser once while trying to switch between pages in one thread, but it seems to be running better, so far.

I'm going to punish the blogs a bit next and then check out the front page of the site. I haven't checked it in a while because of the lag.

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The front page took a few minutes for me to load this afternoon, so I don't think the problem is over yet.
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Old 15th July 2008, 05:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Still VERY slow. Would love to spend more time on this site, but with the pages loading so slowly, I just can't do it.
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Old 15th July 2008, 07:47 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Did anyone change something, because currently the boards run smoothly half the time and the other half it's taking like forever to do something.
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Old 15th July 2008, 07:59 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Did anyone change something, because currently the boards run smoothly half the time and the other half it's taking like forever to do something.
Mike said above that MySQL is resetting itself. I believe that what might be happning is that most of the time the boards run fine, very fast, and then MySQL will reset which causes pages to slow down to nothing.

So I think at this piont EN World is either speedy or gone.
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I have backed up the databases and changed the mysql settings, nearly quadrupling the allocated memory to mysql processes and bumping the concurrect mysql connection count from 650 to just over 2000. We're either going to be fine or the machine is going to melt a hole in the floor at about 1 PM tomorrow

Well, I doubt it will do that - but it could crash and crash hard, such is the reason for the database backups taken this evening. We'll see.
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I'm sorry to report that site performance for me (Firefox 3 from the UK) is getting worse, not better.

Edit: The weird thing is it's so erratic. I can clink a link at one moment and it loads lightning fast... two minutes later I'll click another and it can take literally minutes to load... then five minutes later I'll open 5 in a row in FF tabs and they all load almost immediately... ten minutes later, another slow one, and so-on.
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I haven't seen much of a change myself (FF3, if it maters). The site still seems to work fine for a while, then it'll seem to completely stop responding for a few minutes, at which point I usually go do something else until I see that my EN World tab has lost the "loading" symbol.
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The site is still slowwwwwwwww tonight.
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Old 17th July 2008, 02:04 PM   #19 (permalink)
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ENWorld continues to be inconsistently slow/fast for me as well. Sometimes the pages will timeout or the connection with the server will be reset. I thought it was just me, but apparently not. Thanks for working on this.
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Are you on shared hosting? First step in fixing this is moving off that if finances can support it.

Have you checked your slow query logs? This looks like the result of some really slow queries causing subsequent queries to wait.

Disk access speed could also be a culprit.

I suggest moving the wiki to a different MySQL instance.

Another suggestion, which I don't expect anyone to take seriously - remove or significantly reduce the database access occurring on the front page. I'm assuming most of your traffic hits that page. Try caching that page or just make it static altogether.
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