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Old 25th July 2008, 03:47 AM   #41 (permalink)
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i know nothink about computers.

but i do know i saw some strange address information popping up on the bottom of my browser (IE 7.0.5730.11) as it was trying to connect to a thread or post yesterday. unfortunately i know nothink about computers. so i couldn't capture it. i do remember it had some x's and y's and d's though.

edit: it read something like waiting for http://xkcd.... even though, i was posting or reading a thread here. very bizarre.
Hm, xkcd is a web comic. Maybe someone posted a picture from that site.
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Old 25th July 2008, 09:41 PM   #42 (permalink)
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They're aware of the problem. There are a few other threads about it... one just above (or below, once I post) this one.
Sure, people are aware the site is slow... but do they know that enworld would welcome knowledgeable volunteers?

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Old 25th July 2008, 10:06 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Maybe it's time to hire a diagnostics firm/freelancer or MySQL programmer for a few hours/days to fix this issue? I'm sure the money spent on this expert will be made up from keeping lots of subscribers who might be fed up with the slow loads
I'm sure it would; unfortunately we don't have any money.
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Old 25th July 2008, 10:25 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the slowdown (it probably doesn't, since it's on the client side, but there may be something similar on the server side as well...), but I'm getting loads and loads of JavaScript memory leak warnings on ENWorld. Here's one report (from the main forum page):
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Every error you cited is in the framework, not my code. Prototype is one of the most heavily used and heavily tested AJAX frameworks on the net and it has been tested for leaks and problems repeatedly.
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Old 25th July 2008, 10:35 PM   #45 (permalink)
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It seems to have been a better today and yesterday, especially after midnight Central time US. Might be usage pattern related then.

My computer expertise is no where near what is needed hear, but I think a general announcement may help. Maybe (or just invite attacks... ))
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Old 25th July 2008, 11:21 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Yes! Today EN World is delightfully snappy!

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Old 26th July 2008, 12:08 AM   #47 (permalink)
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And here's the response from the prototype website:

Every error you cited is in the framework, not my code. Prototype is one of the most heavily used and heavily tested AJAX frameworks on the net and it has been tested for leaks and problems repeatedly.
Shows how much I know - I'm a WinForms programmer, not a web programmer, so I didn't even know prototype.js was an AJAX framework.
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Old 26th July 2008, 01:16 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Shows how much I know - I'm a WinForms programmer, not a web programmer, so I didn't even know prototype.js was an AJAX framework.
Yup. I'm going to assume EN has local prototype copies and is not trying to get them offsite for every call; that'd be a slowdown potential (unless their on google: but I've had google ads cause a site load slowdown before....)
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Old 27th July 2008, 06:14 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Just a note: Good performance again today for me. Hope these datapoints help.
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On a side note, has anyone encountered a problem where the new page fails to load, causing you to lose everything you typed in your replies? I get around that by saving my answers before hitting "reply", but sometimes, I still forget...
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Old 27th July 2008, 06:42 PM   #51 (permalink)
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On a side note, has anyone encountered a problem where the new page fails to load, causing you to lose everything you typed in your replies? I get around that by saving my answers before hitting "reply", but sometimes, I still forget...
If you hit the "back" button, don't you then see your reply again?

(That's how my double-posts happen... failure to load, back button, re-submit.)

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If you hit the "back" button, don't you then see your reply again?

(That's how my double-posts happen... failure to load, back button, re-submit.)
Nope, the back button just produces the same "page fails to load" message. And it seems that whenever I refresh a page, the message is also lost irrevocably. Ah well, something else to get used to, I suppose.
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Old 28th July 2008, 05:25 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Nope, the back button just produces the same "page fails to load" message. And it seems that whenever I refresh a page, the message is also lost irrevocably. Ah well, something else to get used to, I suppose.
Don't get used to it -- switch browsers! Whatever you're using now is doing bad things to you.

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Just a thought here...

Does anyone in here know whether the present version of MySQL is buggy in general, or has produced similar results on other similar sites? If so - perhaps the updates that will eventually come along for MySQL will help smooth things out?

Anyone out there heard of something like this, or known similar things to happen with past releases of MySQL?

I should mention that although the site still seems to run a little slow, access is generally much better.
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Don't get used to it -- switch browsers! Whatever you're using now is doing bad things to you.

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Yup. With Firefox and Opera, I never lose posts - the stuff is saved when you hit "back". And Opera can manage notes, Firefox surely has a plug-in.

BTW, ENWorld works totally fast for me today. I suppose that's either a good sign or just means it's highly stress-related, as I'm surfing on off-times (due to the different time zone).

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Michael, have you been able to determine that MySQL is the cause? Do you have any information leading to the idea that MySQL is performing poorly? I posted some ideas and offered to help some with the set-up on the thread about the my.cnf last week, but I haven't seen any response to that. If you want me to look at things, I'd be happy to give it a try when I get a chance.

At any rate, the response of the site has been generally better for me lately, with fewer hiccups. I don't know what's changed, but it seems to have improved the situation some.
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A datum: EnWorld seems much faster in the morning (U.K. time).
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A datum: EnWorld seems much faster in the morning (U.K. time).
Seconded from another UK reader.
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Yesterday, ENWorld timed out on me a few times, and today it's been almost random... a few times it hung on a click, then on others it went right through. I hope the problem is still being worked on and we're not just waiting for a volunteer-expert.
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