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I've seen several threads in the past week devolve into fairly vitriolic edition wars. Seems to me we had quite a long period of relative civility and good discussion. Things seem to be coming loose again. Maybe it's just me.
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I've seen several threads in the past week devolve into fairly vitriolic edition wars. Seems to me we had quite a long period of relative civility and good discussion. Things seem to be coming loose again. Maybe it's just me.
So you are so upset by the recent outbreak of edition warring that has been happening and feel left out?
It never stopped. People stayed in the trenches on there own forms and subforms but to much bad blood is there to end this soon
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That's because its not truly an edition war. Its a people war.
Bingo.
Some people just can't let go. Unfortunately, they just end up making their own side look bad.
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There seems to be two separate trends coalescing...
* A number of threads of late dealing with older-editions or clones, and specific elements therein (rules lightness, S&S elements, retro-viability, or nostalgia) that begin with an extolling for virtues of said play, but degenerate quickly into "our way is better" vs. "your way is outdated" flame-battles.
* A smaller number of threads dealing with industry elements (and 3pp in specific) that have touched off a firestorm of 3pp vs. 1pp arguments and "industry health" debates, especially focused on 4e's sales and potential D&D-inspired competitors.
I think this is partially due to the slower release schedule and lack of anything interesting going on in the industry (certain company-health stories aside). Once Gen-Con, Pathfinder, and DMG II all fall on the horizon, some of these petty squabbles will fade again.
I don't get it. It is very obvious that yes one game is better then the other. It doesn't matter what people think, the facts are thus: Changeling the Dreaming is better then Changeling the Lost.
I don't get it. It is very obvious that yes one game is better then the other. It doesn't matter what people think, the facts are thus: Changeling the Dreaming is better then Changeling the Lost.
Pfft. Paranoia XP is better than Paranoia 5th edition. Try finding someone who will argue the other side of that.
For reference, we have little interest or patience for edition war posts. Don't like 'em, don't care about 'em, don't want to see 'em. Bleah. Give me a post about cool game stuff that makes my campaign better instead, please.
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I think this is partially due to the slower release schedule and lack of anything interesting going on in the industry (certain company-health stories aside). Once Gen-Con, Pathfinder, and DMG II all fall on the horizon, some of these petty squabbles will fade again.
I'm not so certain. Edition war threads tend to flare up when various companies make announcements (I'd say the last bunch was precipitated by WoTC pulling PDFs, WoTC's announcements of DDI exclusive content, and recent, seemingly opposed 3PP declarations). Given the historical trends, I would think that Gencon and Pathfinder's release will cause a huge dust-up, maybe the worst since the 4e release, and given Sigil's prominence in the DMGII, I expect that we'll also see some smaller scale fights between fans of the various cosmologies.
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* A smaller number of threads dealing with industry elements (and 3pp in specific) that have touched off a firestorm of 3pp vs. 1pp arguments and "industry health" debates, especially focused on 4e's sales and potential D&D-inspired competitors.
I thought it was companies that produced officially-licensed content for WoTC.
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Nah. 3PP means "Third Party Publisher". This is because business happens normally between two parties: a Publisher, and a Customer. This is one, and two parties here. Any other Publisher who also sells a product via a license from the first party becomes, de facto, a third party in this business and thus, a "Third Party Publisher".
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