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and even so, unchecking that option does sound like a somewhat bad idea ("Well, we might have been able to sort out things regarding your ban if you had allowed to be emailed, but this way...").
This is not a concern. The option is to allow or disallow system e-mails from the admins. If a mod or admin needs to speak with you personally, we can still look up your e-mail address and send you an e-mail privately, outside the system.
This is not a concern. The option is to allow or disallow system e-mails from the admins. If a mod or admin needs to speak with you personally, we can still look up your e-mail address and send you an e-mail privately, outside the system.
While that's how I'd expect it to work (though I admittedly did not know for certain, having never been in that situation), would the average user know that from the description? It only says "From time to time, the administrators may want to send you email notices.
If you do not want to receive these notices, disable this option."
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While that's how I'd expect it to work (though I admittedly did not know for certain, having never been in that situation), would the average user know that from the description? It only says "From time to time, the administrators may want to send you email notices.
If you do not want to receive these notices, disable this option."
That's the inbuilt vBulletin text. There may be a way to change it to make it clearer - I'll have a poke around. But, yeah, newsletters etc. is exactly what that setting is for.
To those of you who are upset by the newsletter - I'm sorry. It was sent with the best of intentions, in the belief you'd be interested in it, and goes out only to those who have indicated that they will accept emails from the admin on their account page.
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It's a mixed bag - I've had a lot of folks say they really like it, so I'm glad for that. The aim was to do something useful, not to bug you.
And in all fairness, a lot of people *do* find the newsletter useful. I'm upset about it being blasted along as an opt-out, that's all.
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Originally Posted by La Bete
Hi Morrus,
I can't say that I'm jumping with joy over the email, but am blissfully unconcerned about you sending it, and appreciated you taking the time to come up with new ways to make the site more useful to us. Keep up the good work!
Elephant/CapnZapp - overreacting posters are overreacting.
Pleeease tell me you post on CM.
On the contrary, unsubscribing and then complaining about the annoyance is exactly the appropriate response. Maybe, just maybe, next time Morrus/other ENWorld admins/new powers that be will use better methodology for newsletter subscriptions. If they do, it's a win for everyone.
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That's the inbuilt vBulletin text. There may be a way to change it to make it clearer - I'll have a poke around. But, yeah, newsletters etc. is exactly what that setting is for.
It depends. We may just email you, gently reminding you about the standard of conduct we expect here; we may post in the thread or topic if we feel it will help; alternatively, we may suspend your account, either temporarily or permanently.
Really? To me it seemed much more related to;
EDIT:Ubrans posts clears this up a bit.
Nah, that's a proviso in the rules - even if you have admin emails set to "no" we reserve the right to email you if you're being an ass on our messageboard.
Nah, that's a proviso in the rules - even if you have admin emails set to "no" we reserve the right to email you if you're being an ass on our messageboard.
Here I was thinking it was more like putting mods on "ignore". You can do it, but may wind up being SOL if you don't see the moderator's request or command.
Edit: Can't speak for other posters, but I've always felt apprehensive about unsubscribe links in emails.
Here I was thinking it was more like putting mods on "ignore". You can do it, but may wind up being SOL if you don't see the moderator's request or command.
Edit: Can't speak for other posters, but I've always felt apprehensive about unsubscribe links in emails.
I like the Email personally. I mostly futz around on CM now and I don't really care for the new(ish?) layout of the news page so it's nice getting the condensed version in my inbox.
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Here I was thinking it was more like putting mods on "ignore". You can do it, but may wind up being SOL if you don't see the moderator's request or command.
I receive the newsletter at more than one account, because I have more than one ID, and it was simple to scroll to the bottom of the newsletter and unsubscribe.
And in all fairness, a lot of people *do* find the newsletter useful. I'm upset about it being blasted along as an opt-out, that's all.
On the contrary, unsubscribing and then complaining about the annoyance is exactly the appropriate response. Maybe, just maybe, next time Morrus/other ENWorld admins/new powers that be will use better methodology for newsletter subscriptions. If they do, it's a win for everyone.
This. Yes, I came here initially to start a thread to this effect. Am I scarred for life and feel violated in my pink parts? No. However, I would expect such a newsletter to be opt-in. As for the "admin Emailing you" setting, I totally would have thought that was just like it sounds, to have admins contact you.
Again, as with above, this is mostly an FYI for next time not a "Heads must roll".
Nit-pick: And this newsletter is somehow /not/ the admin contacting you?
No, it is not. It is a newsletter. I would expect from the context of the check box that it would be for things like "The board will be down" or even "OMG! We are out of money time for a pledge drive!". This was unsolicited. It really was not about the administrative function of the board but as a "Nudge, Nudge, hey! Pay attention" sort thing. Note, this is not some sort of empirical valuation but merely my response to it. As has been shown in this thread, some folks were pleased with it while others were not. My point is, we should be allowed to choose to be included in such emailing before hand (and i feel the account setting is not clear in that), thus, opt-in not opt-out.
Again, I need to say, this is not posted in "Outrage!!!1!11" but as an FYI next time Morrus gets an idea. At least on my part...
One other thing to note - it's indicative of the respect and "reputation powe" that ENWorld commands that I bothered to unsubscribe and post about it. Usually, when I get an unsolicited newsletter, I click "mark as spam" in gmail and, if necessary, add a deletion filter for the sending address.
@Mark - as I observed before, unsubscribing is not a *big* inconvenience, but it's still an inconvenience to need to unsubscribe. Proper protocol for newsletters is to mention them on your site and let people choose to subscribe. People who want them will still subscribe. People who don't...won't complain about getting spammed!
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