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How long has it been? The main page has been down most of the week, and yesterday I could not even get to the messageboards for half the day. Lets start a pool on when will they be back up, I say when hell freezes over.
First, this should be in Meta. Second, considering the huge amount of traffic the site and the board recieves, they are actually up a surpisingly large amount of the time. The boards are up around 90-95% of the time, if not more, and the main site almost never goes down at all. I suppose people just remember the times when they were down more vividly then the huge amount of time they're up.
they go down at least once a month. Either because a sever crash, or the people running it want to change how it looks, ect. why can't they just leave it alone, every time i get used to how a website looks, they change it and It take me more time to look though it. If it is not broke, don't fix it IMO. ENworld is a RPG site, so it belongs in the RPG discussion.
First, no, this thread does belong in Meta. The General RPG Discussion board is for discussing gaming products, campaigns, characters, and so on, that actually pertain to gaming in a reasonable, tangible manner. Meta deals with subjects concerning the site, how it's run, and the messageboards in general. Regardless, I'm not a moderator so moving on...
I've been visiting this site for about three or so years, at least, and the boards definitely do not go down "at least once a month". They go down once in a while, sure, but given the vast amount of traffic this site recieves, more than any other site I've ever visited, that's hardly surprising. In addition, this new server has been the most stable of all the ENWorld servers up to this point. Even if you were correct that the boards go down "at least once a month", that's hardly noticable considering the vast amount of time they're up.
Consider, 30 days is 720 hours of time. The boards going down at least once a month for half a day cuts that down to 708 hours. That's neglibile, and hardly any downtime at all. I think the boards work fine.
Gee, Ken, you want your money back? Oh wait - you say it's free? Then perhaps you could be more polite, eh?
And yes, this belongs in Meta.
Seriously, I'll be thrilled when the adjustments get made and the problems stop. There's about four hours per day when I can't get in. Very frustrating.
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Re: How many people are sick of ENworld going down?
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Originally posted by KenM How long has it been? The main page has been down most of the week,...
Three days at most. It started shortly after I posted my question to Morrus.
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...and yesterday I could not even get to the messageboards for half the day.
I got that for a long time each evening. Did I complain? No, I simply waited, knowing that this was only a temporary thing. Now Morrus is fixing it (hopefully).
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Lets start a pool on when will they be back up, I say when hell freezes over.
You won't make it go up faster with these comments.
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they go down at least once a month.
I don't think it is that often. But yes, that sort of thing happens.
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or the people running it want to change how it looks, ect. why can't they just leave it alone, every time i get used to how a website looks, they change it and It take me more time to look though it. If it is not broke, don't fix it IMO.
The changes are a gradual thing. Morrus had these plans for a long time, spawned from a discussion a few months back. Most of us knew that some sort of change would occur.
Mind you, seeing the site down isn't good, and the connection errors are at times annoying, but ranting won't make them go away. If you're not pleased, ok. But it can be said a bit more polite.
I understand your position, though.
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Horacio - I understand that he is not happy that the main site is down, and that the forums tend to be slow. I do not understand why he feels he has a right to be insulting. I thought that was clear in my post?
ColonelHardisson - He might have been a lurker long before. I know I have been a lurker long before I registered.
He's insulting, yes.
Should we be insulting in return? Let's try not to be. (though I propably failed that before)
Re: Re: Re: Re: How many people are sick of ENworld going down?
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Hey hey, no need for personal insults. I disagree with the position he takes, but it can be very frustrating not to access the boards.
O.K., sorry.
I didn't say he was a moron, I only said he was behaving like one, and it was true.
Using his expression, I'm sick of people coming here and venting their (false) rants like if they had the right to complain. This site is a wonderful gift than Morrus and the Moderators (good name for a band... ) offer to us, not a right.
[EDIT]And he was rude and insulting, too... [/EDIT]
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As someone who's webmastered a site since 1998, I know that Morrus' problems are almost totally host-related. Once he gets his host to fix the problems, they will stop. The too many database connections problem is due to heavy traffic on both the news site and the boards, which are both database driven. Once they're split into two databases with sufficient connection allowance, the problems will cease.
Yestereday's TCPIP connection problems are also a host issue, which may have been caused by an Apache stoppage, or a DNS problem, or a denial of service attack, or one of many other possibilities. None of these are Morrus' fault, and have nothing to do with his site redesign.
Have patience. I'm sure he'll either have it worked out, or he'll find another host. This is the way it all works. If you don't like it, try building (and paying for) your own site that gets this amount of traffic and you'll see just how easy it's not.
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When you go to your favorite RPG site and find that it's down, enjoy the time with a good book or go outside and enjoy the fall weather. Go talk to your family and friends and make to realtionships with many of the great people on this Earth. En World should not be so important in your life that having it down for a few days totally disrupts your existance.
I only get upset when it goes down because then I have to work. Its a lot better then the days when there only allowing certian number of people on the boards at any one time. Oh well its back up now.
Keep up the good work guys
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Should be fixed! Plus, we'll soon quadruple our RAM.
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I have been coming to the fourms for awhile, i just registered so i can post. Ever since the forurms have been down this week, it says "message boards are still open" I click on that, and 75% of the time NOTHING HAPPENS, does not go to fourms, nothing. So I hope you can see my frustation. I hope all of you that have insulted me burn in hell.
Ya, it can be frustating, but it's understandible. I can't imagine how much time and effort Morrus has been going through to get this site operating properly.
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