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Old 20th December 2003, 02:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Please remove scrolling news banner!

To whom it may concern:

I was wondering if the new news scrolling banner could be removed--it slows performance down on my machine, even though I'm using a very capable Mac G4, when browsers have to keep animating the window widgets suffer, such as text edit fields.

Perhaps this feature would be better in an area where other widgets aren't present, such as in the main forum menu?

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Old 20th December 2003, 04:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i see no scrolling banner.

perhaps help could come more quickly if you make it clear what address you are using too. does your url have "cyberstreet" in it anywhere?
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Old 20th December 2003, 05:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 20th December 2003, 11:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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To whom it may concern:

I was wondering if the new news scrolling banner could be removed--it slows performance down on my machine, even though I'm using a very capable Mac G4, when browsers have to keep animating the window widgets suffer, such as text edit fields.

Perhaps this feature would be better in an area where other widgets aren't present, such as in the main forum menu?

Thanks for your time,

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Russ had told me to place the PDF news banner onto the Sci-Fi page and the Sci-Fi news banner on the PDF page. I haven't completed this process so I'm mystified as to what banner you are referring to b/c you shouldn't be able to see a banner (yet). What page are you referring to, along with what style??
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Old 20th December 2003, 11:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ok, I see what you're referring to. You can disable the banner by switching to an alternate styleset.

As to who put it in, I'm guessing Russ did, cause I didn't. Doesn't look bad though.
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Well it looks ok, it's just annoying with it's java loading and window pop-uping.
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Old 23rd December 2003, 05:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Aye, I hate it, too. I often browse on my little wireless P400 32mb laptop which works just fine for standard HTML and Javascript, but yanked to a horrible near-stop as Java loads (and until I next restart everything is much slower as the JRE never really goes away). Is there any way this can be something that can be turned off via a board CP setting of some sort?
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Old 23rd December 2003, 07:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yes, please remove it from the default styleset.

Perhaps a special "Bells and Whistles" styleset could be instituted for those who do not have problems with slowdowns and such.

It would be nice, I would think, if the default styleset remains as the simplest, least complicated entry to EN World and its forums so as to allow for the friendliest environment for even the oldest machines and lowest level of connection speeds.

Mind you I am not saying it doesn't look nice or serve an excellent function, simply that it is not as universally friendly to users.

On a similar note, maybe some of the new stylesets could be geared more toward various types of users? Maybe a Fantasy/Medieval Styleset, a Future/Sci-Fi styleset or even a Modern Styleset? Could be lots of them, I guess.

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Old 23rd December 2003, 07:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Aye, I hate it, too. I often browse on my little wireless P400 32mb laptop which works just fine for standard HTML and Javascript, but yanked to a horrible near-stop as Java loads (and until I next restart everything is much slower as the JRE never really goes away). Is there any way this can be something that can be turned off via a board CP setting of some sort?
Go to USER CP and choose any theme but the default. This will override the ticker.
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Old 23rd December 2003, 11:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Go to USER CP and choose any theme but the default. This will override the ticker.
I think the point is that most folks who have the chance to pop in for a quick browse would be better served not having to go through the process of signing in to remove obstacles that need not be part of the default styleset.
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Old 23rd December 2003, 11:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I think the point is that most folks who have the chance to pop in for a quick browse would be better served not having to go through the process of signing in to remove obstacles that need not be part of the default styleset.
It wasn't my decision to put it in, and I lack the authority to take it out.
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I've asked our Fearless Leader to take it out when he has a chance, unless he feels strongly about keeping it there. With luck, we'll swap it to a non-default style sheet.
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Old 24th December 2003, 11:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks, MM & PC. I'm surprised MoRuss hasn't commented one way or the other yet.
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I'll look at it this weekend, folks. Too stuffed with delicious food to even contemplate playing with html code right now!

[Edit - you're right, BTW. On my PC at home, it loads fast and scrolls smoothly, but here on my grandmother's PC it is slow-loading and jerky. ]
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Old 25th December 2003, 12:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'll look at it this weekend, folks. Too stuffed with delicious food to even contemplate playing with html code right now!

[Edit - you're right, BTW. On my PC at home, it loads fast and scrolls smoothly, but here on my grandmother's PC it is slow-loading and jerky. ]
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Old 31st December 2003, 04:15 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Hi,

I've just disabled java (not javascript) when using the forum.

I was also wondering if the applet could be dynamic--that might help, because the performance breakdown happens when the browser is trying to redraw the ticker offscreen which actually takes up more CPU resources because it's not being bussed to the graphics processor but it's still working in the background.

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Old 31st December 2003, 08:33 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I've just disabled java (not javascript) when using the forum.
There's probably enough casual browsers with slower systems that don't know how to do that, which would warrant simply removing the barrier, though I personally understand what you're saying.
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I guess this issue is going to sink into the "got more important things than this" pile. Kinda a bummer, really. I'm sure it is definitely making that Fantasy & Sci-Fi Books, Movies & TV forum is a pain for some folks.

Oddly, I was just getting ready to move when it was added, had my DSL disconnected based on the fact that they were transferring it to my new place (but they somehow got the bright idea of disconnecting it immediately, of course), and just got my DSL connection back (because they seem to have some difficulty scheduling reconnects for transfers of service, unlike how quickly they got me set up the first time when they wanted my money).

Anyway, it is no longer an issue for me. Nevertheless, the last two and a half weeks I was stuck with a dial-up so I can certainly speak from experience when I say what a pain it is.

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