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Old 25th September 2008, 03:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm tired of Some telling Others how to have fun

And I apologize if I've come off that way to anyone on these boards.

A local club was targeted by people who found the activities of the club to be immoral. They stuffed unpostmarked flyers into the mailboxes of local residents, breaking the law to "alert" the town to the "problem." The landlord confronted the club organizers and pressured them into moving out of the clubhouse. Even though police and town official made it clear that the club was doing nothing illegal and that, in fact, the "morally upright crusaders" were the only ones to have broken a law by stuffing flyers in people's mailboxes.

People need to get a life and stay out of other's business.

I'm mostly just venting, but would like to hear of anyone else's similar experiences.
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Old 25th September 2008, 03:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So what was going on at the club? We want to know. I likes me some immoral activities (as long as its legal)
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Old 25th September 2008, 03:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It's a little hard to comment without knowing what this "club" was doing. A gaming club?
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Yes, it would be nice to know what we are commenting on. There's a world of difference between a tennis club and a bondage club (usually).
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Yeah, what kind of racket were these upright folks down on?
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Old 25th September 2008, 03:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm sure they were only practicing witchcraft and sucuming to the influences of the devil. You know, like a Harry Potter book club.
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I'm guessing swingers' club. They have to be very careful about the venues they choose.
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Sorry. Gaming club.

I thought the days of religious zealots hit their peak when one of the vendor's van was tipped over at GenCon by protestors.
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Sorry. Gaming club.

I thought the days of religious zealots hit their peak when one of the vendor's van was tipped over at GenCon by protestors.
Really? Just tabletop RPGs, minis, CCGs and board games? Wow, that's really weird this day and age.

Now, if they were LARPing (not to make a statement about LARPs or those that play them) and had extreme makeup, black clothes, gothic symbols and such, I can see how an uneducated local could construe it as a scary threat to their kids. Fear of the unknown is a powerful thing.
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Really? Just tabletop RPGs, minis, CCGs and board games? Wow, that's really weird this day and age.

Now, if they were LARPing (not to make a statement about LARPs or those that play them) and had extreme makeup, black clothes, gothic symbols and such, I can see how an uneducated local could construe it as a scary threat to their kids. Fear of the unknown is a powerful thing.
I don't think you appreciate just how problematic all fun is. Even games like Yatzee and Sorry can lead to fun which leads to other bad things like dancing.
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My condolences to your club. I'm rather surpised this kind of thing happens in this day and age.

The closest thing to that that happened to me, was a protest from the society for women's studies at my university, due to the film club showing anime on a public film night (the words "degrading" and "misogynistic" were uttered multiple times, I believe). It was a little surreal, to be honest.

D&D never got that kind of response in my home town, we were just treated as weird for not wanting to play cricket or rugby.
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I don't think you appreciate just how problematic all fun is. Even games like Yatzee and Sorry can lead to fun which leads to other bad things like dancing.
Or in other ways - actually, it's not about "how to have fun". You're not supposed to have fun at all! It's better that way, trust me.
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Sorry. Gaming club.

I thought the days of religious zealots hit their peak when one of the vendor's van was tipped over at GenCon by protestors.
*rolls a Gather Information Check*

I'm sorry, somethings not adding up here. Do you have links to a story perhaps? What town / city did this take place in? Is there a police report? Can you provide more information as to what was going on (was it Magic the Gathering, DnD, Video games, and Warhammer that people found so offensive)? Did the town / city ban said game?

The landlord did nothing wrong, he has a right to decide how his property is used. Even if he is the victim of false / misleading information, its his property and his choice on who uses it.
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Hm, my ranks in Google Information seem to be around the stuff all level, too.

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The landlord did nothing wrong, he has a right to decide how his property is used. Even if he is the victim of false / misleading information, its his property and his choice on who uses it.
That would depend on the applicable legislation and possible the terms of the lease as well. We don't have enough information to know if the landlord was within his/her rights.

Landlords don't have completely free choice on who uses their property. If they sign a lease for a specific period of time and the tenant does nothing to violate said lease, the landlord can't simply kick the tenant out before the lease expires.
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The landlord did nothing wrong, he has a right to decide how his property is used. Even if he is the victim of false / misleading information, its his property and his choice on who uses it.
Unless they had a lease, which is a legally binding contract. Kicking someone off your property while they have a lease that they have not violated is against the law.

Possession is 9/10ths of the law, and a lease gives the tenant possession. I've gone to court a number of times against scumlords before.
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Unless they had a lease, which is a legally binding contract. Kicking someone off your property while they have a lease that they have not violated is against the law.

Possession is 9/10ths of the law, and a lease gives the tenant possession. I've gone to court a number of times against scumlords before.
Okay, assuming the Landlord was operating inside the lease and the scope of the law
(Forgot to bring my law book +3 today)

I guess we also have to assume that the club in question was also operating within the scope of law and the rules of lease as well.

Need more info all around
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