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Old 1st October 2008, 09:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Giant Ducks: A Scourge Of The Ancient Oceans

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As if the little fish of the ancient seas didn’t have enough terrifying predators to deal with, they also had to contend with duck-like birds, almost the size of small airplanes, and armed with tooth-like spikes.

That’s the claim of researchers who say these monstrous waterfowl once skimmed across the ocean waters over what is now the London region. Giving “mother goose” a whole new meaning, the relatives of duck and geese had five-metre (15-foot) wingspans, according to the scientists.

A newfound skull of one of the animals, dated as 50 million years old, is described Sept. 26 in the research journal Palaeontology.

It belongs to Dasornis, a bony-toothed bird, or pelagornithid, researchers said, and was discovered in the London Clay that lies under much of London, Essex and northern Kent in southeastern U.K.

That such birds lie in these deposits has been long known, but the new fossil is one of the best skulls yet found, and reveals previously unknown anatomical details, according to the researchers.

The birds were similar to albatross in their way of ife, the investigators said. Albatross have the larg est wingspan of any living bird, but that of Dasornis was over 40 percent greater. Despite these similarities, the latest research suggests that the closest living relatives of Dasornis and its fossil kin are ducks and geese, according to the scientists.

“By today’s standards these were pretty bizarre animals, but perhaps the strangest thing about them is that they had sharp, tooth-like projections along the cutting edges of the beak,” said Gerald Mayr of the German Senckenberg Research Institute and author of the report.

Like all living birds, Dasornishad a beak made of keratin, the same substance as our hair and fingernails, but it also had these bony “pseudo-teeth,” he added.

“No living birds have true teeth—which are made of enamel and dentine—because their distant ancestors did away with them more than 100 million years ago, probably to save weight and make flying easier,” Mayr continued.

“But the bony-toothed birds, like Dasornis, are unique among birds in that they reinvented tooth-like structures by evolving these bony spikes.”

“These birds probably skimmed across the surface of the sea, snapping up fish and squid on the wing. With only an ordinary beak these would have been difficult to keep hold of, and the pseudo-teeth evolved to prevent meals slipping away.”
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Old 1st October 2008, 10:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Oh sure, totally derail my thread about evolutionism.

I'm just kidding.

Admittedly, it is a big-ass bird.
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Meh. Just a gigantic albatros. I'm not very impressed by this. There were a lot of more interesting creatures around that time. Now a mosquito of that size would be news, but this is just a "slightly" bigger version of modern birds. Most animals were bigger then.
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Meh. Just a gigantic albatros. I'm not very impressed by this. There were a lot of more interesting creatures around that time. Now a mosquito of that size would be news, but this is just a "slightly" bigger version of modern birds. Most animals were bigger then.
Yes, but these ducks had teeth.
I wouldn't want to tango with one of them.
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Gives "being nibbled to death by ducks" a bit more oomph.
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Yes, but these ducks had teeth.
I wouldn't want to tango with one of them.
Is it a Dire Duck?
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It could also be Count Duckula..
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Is it a Dire Duck?
A dire duck would just peck you to death with its bill. These avains can peck and flay your skin with their teeth.
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Oy Gavault.
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A dire duck would just peck you to death with its bill. These avains can peck and flay your skin with their teeth.
Ah but doesn't dire creatures usually have ridges and bone-formations and bigger teeth etc. By that extent, a Dire Duck could possibly have teethlike beakridges.
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Ah but doesn't dire creatures usually have ridges and bone-formations and bigger teeth etc. By that extent, a Dire Duck could possibly have teethlike beakridges.
Not if its based on a modern duck.


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Fine, fine. Just saying; its not like he was based on these ancient avians. I that were the case, he'd be a true horror to behold.
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According to legend, Count Duckula has died countless times and could only be resurrected during an age of Aquarius. I figure that could only happen like once every few hundreds of years. Considering that according to cartoon history, civilization began sometime in the cretaceous era it may be possible that Count Duckula's ancient ancestor might have been one of those toothed ducks.
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Threads like this only make me think that ancient avians were Moa interesting than most people think...
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