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Old 4th August 2009, 04:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Pathfinder First Print Run Sold Out

Hello Everyone,

I think congratulations is worth sending to Paizo on a truly fantastic effort. I hope this is a good sign of the health of the rpg industry. Unfortunately, it appears that until November though, hard copies of the Pathfinder Core Rulebook are going to be pretty scarce.

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Ten days before the launch of their much-anticipated Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook, Paizo Publishing today announced that the first print run of the book has sold out, with all preordered copies on their way to stores for an August 13 release. With preorders more than five times greater than for any previous product in Paizo's seven-year history, orders for the Core Rulebook continue to mount even as the company speeds to produce another print run. Paizo.com has retained enough copies to handle all paizo.com subscriptions and pre-orders. Customers who have not already placed a pre-order with paizo.com or their game or book retailer are encouraged to seek out a copy immediately following the book's retail release, as supplies are expected to run out well before the arrival of a second print run in early November.

"We thought we had printed enough to last us at least until the end of this year, but skyrocketing demand from our customers and distributors has us reprinting already," Lisa Stevens, CEO of Paizo said. "We have a healthy amount heading to Gen Con, but we think even those will go fast, so don't delay in picking up your copy!"

The Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook is the first release in the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game line of hardcover tabletop RPG rulebooks. Clocking in at a whopping 576 pages and at a weight of more than four pounds, this $49.99 rulebook is the newest incarnation of the 3.5 version of the world's best-selling roleplaying game. Playtested by more than 50,000 players over the last year, the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook is the most hotly anticipated tabletop RPG release of 2009. A massive electronic download file ($9.99) will remain available at paizo.com.

"The phenomenal support of the constantly growing community of Pathfinder RPG players has been a staggering sight to behold," said Paizo Publisher Erik Mona. "To sell out a hugely ambitious print run before the release date just goes to show what an immense audience this game will enjoy in the years to come."
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Old 4th August 2009, 04:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Congrats, guys. You certainly deserve it. Of course, some git didn't preorder. . . and might therefore have to wait until much later in the year to pick up a copy.

It's still great news though.
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Old 4th August 2009, 05:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hopefully that's not taking into account books for sale at Gen Con. I plan on being one of the first in the doors when it opens on Thursday, and I'm headed straight for the Paizo booth to get my own copy of Pathfinder.
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Yeah, I really hope my preorder got though from the store I used. If not I'll get the pdf and wait

Tis good news however
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While we don't know the exact circulation of the first print run, it's nice to hear that the pre-orders exceeded their expectations. I'm not planning on running a pure Pathfinder game at this time, but I pre-ordered the book to pilfer the ideas for my own D&D revision.
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I am sure the first print run was smaller than the last time they released their flagship game and this means nothing...
...Last time... Oh, wait.

Congratulations, Paizo!
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Old 4th August 2009, 08:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I would congratulate Paizo and all the fine people who work there, but unfortunately, your fans has been telling me for over a year that selling out the initial print run means nothing. It's simply a sign that the print run was purposedly made small enough to sell out, in order to generate hype on the internet.


I can however congratulate the many (10k?) purchasers, may PFRPG make you happy gamers once again.
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I hope amazon doesn't forget me like it did with the 4E stuff.
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Good for Paizo. Bad for me (maybe) - I'm away next week, so won't be able to make it into my FLGS. He says he's ordering plenty of copies, and should put one aside for me, but...

I'm sure it'll be fine. I'll pop in this weekend to remind him.
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I would congratulate Paizo and all the fine people who work there, but unfortunately, your fans has been telling me for over a year that selling out the initial print run means nothing. It's simply a sign that the print run was purposedly made small enough to sell out, in order to generate hype on the internet.


I can however congratulate the many (10k?) purchasers, may PFRPG make you happy gamers once again.
Heh... I was waiting to see a post like this pop up! :-)

Fans are, of course, passionate about the games they play. To a fault, in some cases. I love them for that anyway, but I do wish that fans of PFRPG and fans of 4E could and would get along better. Hopefully once PFRPG is out and folks can see it and make their long-at-last final decisions about the game's merits and/or flaws then we can all get back to gaming.

In any event, I can say that selling out the initial print run DOES mean something. To me at least, it means that there's a market for the game we've been working our fingers to the bone creating for the past 2 years, which is a nice bit of affirmation. Just as I'm 100% sure it was for WotC when their first print run of 4E sold out.

It does mean that we should have ordered a bigger print run, but the print run we DID order was quite a bit larger than any other print run we've done for a Pathfinder product. I'm not going to quote numbers... but we're quite very much pleased with the fact... and stressed that we ran out.

Here's hoping that the excitement and exuberance carries over from distribution and advance orders to game tables! (Keeps fingers crossed, eats more TUMS.)
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Heh... I was waiting to see a post like this pop up! :-)

Fans are, of course, passionate about the games they play. To a fault, in some cases. I love them for that anyway, but I do wish that fans of PFRPG and fans of 4E could and would get along better. Hopefully once PFRPG is out and folks can see it and make their long-at-last final decisions about the game's merits and/or flaws then we can all get back to gaming.

In any event, I can say that selling out the initial print run DOES mean something. To me at least, it means that there's a market for the game we've been working our fingers to the bone creating for the past 2 years, which is a nice bit of affirmation. Just as I'm 100% sure it was for WotC when their first print run of 4E sold out.

It does mean that we should have ordered a bigger print run, but the print run we DID order was quite a bit larger than any other print run we've done for a Pathfinder product. I'm not going to quote numbers... but we're quite very much pleased with the fact... and stressed that we ran out.

Here's hoping that the excitement and exuberance carries over from distribution and advance orders to game tables! (Keeps fingers crossed, eats more TUMS.)
A very classy response, sir. Congratulations on the fantastic sales!

I'm a long time D&D player (all the way back almost to Chainmail). I'm playing in two 4E games and love them, but have also been waiting very impatiently for the PFRPG. I plan to be playing both for years to come!
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I would congratulate Paizo and all the fine people who work there, but unfortunately, your fans has been telling me for over a year that selling out the initial print run means nothing. It's simply a sign that the print run was purposedly made small enough to sell out, in order to generate hype on the internet.


I can however congratulate the many (10k?) purchasers, may PFRPG make you happy gamers once again.
Jack99 why do you post in threads about pathfinder? It never seems to end well and you come off snarky whether that is your intention or not. I think you would be happier not posting in such threads. I seem to recall you posting to the effect that you would leave anything resembling edition wars alone.

Kudo's to James for the reasoned response.

I am glad pathfinder sold old. To me it speaks of the split that exists in the fanbase. On a more positive note it reflects well on the quality of paizo's products and the companies ability to win the confidence of a significant portion of the RPG market. They are a well managed company that is great at marketing and reading and responding in a timely fashion to the market. My hat goes off to them.
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Heh... I was waiting to see a post like this pop up! :-)

Fans are, of course, passionate about the games they play. To a fault, in some cases. I love them for that anyway, but I do wish that fans of PFRPG and fans of 4E could and would get along better. Hopefully once PFRPG is out and folks can see it and make their long-at-last final decisions about the game's merits and/or flaws then we can all get back to gaming.

In any event, I can say that selling out the initial print run DOES mean something. To me at least, it means that there's a market for the game we've been working our fingers to the bone creating for the past 2 years, which is a nice bit of affirmation. Just as I'm 100% sure it was for WotC when their first print run of 4E sold out.

It does mean that we should have ordered a bigger print run, but the print run we DID order was quite a bit larger than any other print run we've done for a Pathfinder product. I'm not going to quote numbers... but we're quite very much pleased with the fact... and stressed that we ran out.

Here's hoping that the excitement and exuberance carries over from distribution and advance orders to game tables! (Keeps fingers crossed, eats more TUMS.)
I think that Pathfinder is out can be only good for the atmosphere. Now it's easier to brag about the stuff you love than complain or ridicule the stuff you don't like.

Of course, there are still those "caught in the middle" unhappy with either, so - brace for impact.
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