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Old 2nd June 2009, 05:44 PM   #741 (permalink)
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DeWar, to answer your question a little more, putting a lower level spell in a higher level slot is a 1:1 trade. One first level spell still fills a third level slot completely, even though it takes only one-third as much space in a spellbook to scribe.

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I guess the words necessary for scribing higher level spells are inordinately long and complicated, or require complex symbols and diagrams or something.
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Old 2nd June 2009, 11:06 PM   #742 (permalink)
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I wasn't talking about converting scribed scrolls, i was talking about exchanging a first level spell cast in leu of a higher spell slot. Ie: Capi can cast 2 level 2 spells per day. how many level one spells could he cast in the place of those second level spells

as per this post
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Old 3rd June 2009, 12:00 AM   #743 (permalink)
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updated 6 days of work: (work in progress)

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Capizzio's 6 days of scollery persuits:

day one:
Spoiler:

spend time with magus cruz to purchase 2 pearls of speach got turned down (4 hours)
try to read animate rope from a scroll
1d20+8=9
failed (1 hour)

try to read scroll spontanious search
1d20+8=23
success. write in book (1 hour) 100 gp spent

try to read Instant search from scroll
1d20+8=14
failed (1 hour)

try to read mage armor
1d20+8=12
failed(1 hour)


day two

Spoiler:

try to read Burning hands
1d20+8=15
failed (1 hour)

try to read Deep breath
1d20+8=25
success (1 hour, 100 gp)

try to read scroll Ecto plasmic armor
1d20+8=9
failed (1 hour)

try to read scroll Critical strike
1d20+8=10
failed (1 hour)


day three
Spoiler:

write scroll: spontanious search 4 times for a cost of 50 gp and 2 xp
(4 hours)


day four

day five
read scroll to write in book: shield bearer
1d20+8=10
failed (1 hour)
[/sblock]

day six

as of right now it would take 20 days to read 500 hours of books (150 at 2.5 hours per day with comp lang.) Will put off this project und another day.
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Old 3rd June 2009, 12:17 AM   #744 (permalink)
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Manny voices the opinion that as the group is on extended leave and under express directions to explore the area and learn (sort of a long field placement) we should spend as much time as we need to get our background information straight before we proceed.

"Really, what's the hurry? These doors have been here for a while now. They'll be here for a while longer. Knowledge is a weapon, forewarned is fore-armed, and all that such stuff. And the few things I've heard about the Underdark in my years of lurking around the Academy tell me that I do not want to go in there unprepared. So, pass around the Pearls of Power, use those Scholar's Touch spells we worked so hard on, hunker down and learn!"

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Old 3rd June 2009, 03:32 AM   #745 (permalink)
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Manny voices the opinion that as the group is on extended leave and under express directions to explore the area and learn (sort of a long field placement) we should spend as much time as we need to get our background information straight before we proceed.

"Really, what's the hurry? These doors have been here for a while now. They'll be here for a while longer. Knowledge is a weapon, forewarned is fore-armed, and all that such stuff. And the few things I've heard about the Underdark in my years of lurking around the Academy tell me that I do not want to go in there unprepared. So, pass around the Pearls of Power, use those Scholar's Touch spells we worked so hard on, hunker down and learn!"

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I wasn't talking about converting scribed scrolls, i was talking about exchanging a first level spell cast in leu of a higher spell slot. Ie: Capi can cast 2 level 2 spells per day. how many level one spells could he cast in the place of those second level spells

as per this post
As far as casting is concerned, it's just a 1 for 1 trade off, like I said before. A second level spell slot can be used to prepare ONE first level spell, or one second level spell.
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Old 3rd June 2009, 03:59 AM   #746 (permalink)
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As far as casting is concerned, it's just a 1 for 1 trade off, like I said before. A second level spell slot can be used to prepare ONE first level spell, or one second level spell.
[ooc]
Thank you. I will now take this discussion further into the Ooc thread....
[/ooc]

updated 8 days of work: (work in progress)

Capizzio's 8 days of sKolleree persoots:

(special note: all spellcraft checks will succeed as the benevelance of the dm has far exceeded what I deserve, and I will gratefully accept his unending kindness)

day one:
Spoiler:

cast comp language and schlor's touch for 20 books to be read
3 hrs and 52 mins

take lunch

try to read animate rope from a scroll
1d20+8=9
(1 hour) 100 gp (wrote in book)

try to read scroll spontanious search
1d20+8=23
success. write in book (1 hour) 100 gp spent

try to read Instant search from scroll
1d20+8=14
(1 hour) 100 gp (wrote in book)

try to read mage armor
1d20+8=12
(1 hour) 100 gp (wrote in book)


day two

Spoiler:

cast comp language and schlor's touch for 20 books to be read
3 hrs and 52 mins (total read: 40 books)

take lunch

try to read Burning hands
1d20+8=15
(1 hour)

try to read Deep breath
1d20+8=25
success (1 hour, 100 gp)

try to read scroll Ecto plasmic armor
1d20+8=9
failed (1 hour)

try to read scroll Critical strike
1d20+8=10
(1 hour) 100 gp (wrote in book)


day three

Spoiler:

cast comp language and schlor's touch for 20 books to be read
3 hrs and 52 mins (total read: 60 books)

take lunch
write scroll: spontanious search 4 times for a total cost of 50 gp and 2 xp
(4 hours)


day four

Spoiler:

cast comp language and schlor's touch for 20 books to be read
3 hrs and 52 mins (total read: 80 books)

take lunch

write the following spells from scrolls:
Endure Elements (100 gp, 1 hour)
Fist of Stone (100 gp, 1 hour)
Guiding shot (100 Gp, 1 hour)
Mount (100 gp, 1 hour)


day five
Spoiler:

cast comp language and schlor's touch for 20 books to be read
3 hrs and 52 mins (total read: 100 books)

take lunch

read scroll to write in book: shield bearer
1d20+8=10
(1 hour)

other reading done:

Night Shield (100 gp, 1 Hour)
Shocking Grasp ( 100 gp, 1 hour)
Sniper’s Shot (100 gp, 1 hour)


day six
Spoiler:

cast comp language and schlor's touch for 20 books to be read
3 hrs and 52 mins (total read:120 books)

take lunch

True Strike (100 gp, 1 hour)
Wings of the sea ( 100 gp, 1 hour)

Scribe scrolls:
Comp Lang X2 at cl 5 (2 hours, 250 gp)


day 7
Spoiler:

cast comp language and schlor's touch for 20 books to be read
3 hrs and 52 mins 9total read: 140 books)

take lunch

Scribe Scrolls:
Identify X 3 ( 3 pearls, 75 gp, 3 hours)
1 hour of relaxation and meditation



day 8
Spoiler:

cast comp language and schlor's touch for 10 books to be read
3 hrs and 5x mins (total read: 150 books!!!)

take lunch
drink wine and just chat with Boris, maybe play checkers with him, or something


Day 9 +: cast comp lang on manny or someone to the total of 250 minutes of comprehension

(5 castings at 50 mins each)
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Scotley's tomb of horrors:
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Industry Gothica's Those Left Behind:
Caerwyn Thingol

Leif's Wirtlestaff's Wizard Acadamy
Capizzio del Collines, esquire

Arkhandus' A hard time in Harrowdale:
EV brewerson

Ytterman's Saga of the Dragon Cult:
John Tannerson

Mowgli's Ledgend of fate (PFRPG)
Harnrey's stat block

Renalg's
Vernon

Malvoisin's council of thieves (PFRPG)
Marcus DuBois

JT Alexander: The four lands (3.5):
intellengence Service
Arie (monk2/ cleric 3)

JT Alexander: the four lands: The Divine Avengers
still yet to be named

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Old 4th June 2009, 01:27 AM   #747 (permalink)
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Oops - never mind.

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Old 5th June 2009, 05:33 AM   #748 (permalink)
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A rank in undercommon and one in the language of the Drow seems appropriate along with the 6 ranks in knowledge: underdark.

It should be noted that I am often of two minds about things.
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At some point during the downtime, Kerlan goes down into Boris's cellar and casts Arcane Lock on the door to the Underdark.

OOC: Are we waiting for anything or can we move on? Are all books read, spells scribed, items crafted?
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Old 5th June 2009, 09:10 PM   #750 (permalink)
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OOC: Good call, on the Arcane Lock! I dunno about the other thing. I've just been waiting for everybody to do all their bookkeeping and to make the necessary updates. And.... I'm also waiting for you Wizards to tell me which challenge you are going to tackle next! Let's see -- You've still got the White Fist Orcs that you've heard tell of, but not actually run across, a big ol' Underdark to play in that you've just been reading about, and you've found some information left behind by a mysterious wizard named Larin Karr. And.... Oh, I'm sure you can find lots more good stuff to occupy your time, if you just put your mids to it!
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When noone is looking, Capizzio sneaks down to lock the door with the chains and lock that had been down there to begin with.

[ooc] not taht would keep any good wizard at bay.[/ooc]
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Caerwyn Thingol

Leif's Wirtlestaff's Wizard Acadamy
Capizzio del Collines, esquire

Arkhandus' A hard time in Harrowdale:
EV brewerson

Ytterman's Saga of the Dragon Cult:
John Tannerson

Mowgli's Ledgend of fate (PFRPG)
Harnrey's stat block

Renalg's
Vernon

Malvoisin's council of thieves (PFRPG)
Marcus DuBois

JT Alexander: The four lands (3.5):
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Arie (monk2/ cleric 3)

JT Alexander: the four lands: The Divine Avengers
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When noone is looking, Capizzio sneaks down to lock the door with the chains and lock that had been down there to begin with.

[ooc] not taht would keep any good wizard at bay.[/ooc]
OOC: Well Knock only takes care of two things keeping a door closed. The door is barred, locked, and Arcane Locked, giving us three protections.
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Tossing aside yet another dusty tome on the differences in strains of cave lichen found in the Underdark, Tylara laments, "I've had enough reading. I say we go chase down the White Fist Orcs. That's a credible threat to the peace of this tranquil valley."
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[ooc] should we get some sort of charter from the duke to allow us free rein to hunt white fist orcs first? [/ooc]
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Leif's Wirtlestaff's Wizard Acadamy
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EV brewerson

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Mowgli's Ledgend of fate (PFRPG)
Harnrey's stat block

Renalg's
Vernon

Malvoisin's council of thieves (PFRPG)
Marcus DuBois

JT Alexander: The four lands (3.5):
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Arie (monk2/ cleric 3)

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ooc: Good thought! There might be more gold in that course of action, too.
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"Aye, let's go hunt some orcs." Xavier replies, his eyes red and strained from the days of reading, testing even his patience.
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