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    3 months before the product hits the shelves,...

    3 months before the product hits the shelves, everything before that will be rumors and supposition.
  2. Assuming not a online MMO, then I would want...

    Assuming not a online MMO, then I would want something with access to the adventure engine like NWN. Include a community for sharing, ranking, and maybe even selling the adventures. That would allow...
  3. This thread contains a poll. Have you considered going chat based? Not as fast...

    Have you considered going chat based? Not as fast as voice, but much more tolerant of poor internet connections. And those people that play using chat say it's much more immersive than voice.

    Or...
  4. This thread contains a poll. Have you considered going chat based? Not as fast...

    Have you considered going chat based? Not as fast as voice, but much more tolerant of poor internet connections. And those people that play using chat say it's much more immersive than voice.

    Or...
  5. Fatigue and timing. Fatigue. There has been so...

    Fatigue and timing.

    Fatigue. There has been so much hype for so long, I know I'm tired of it. Many people don't need another adventure yet.
    Holidays; saving for gifts, plus people have been busy...
  6. Thanks for the positive comment. As for...

    Thanks for the positive comment.

    As for furnished rooms, I get it. When I release the map packs I'll also have unfurnished ones. It just seems to me that most people though are not wanting to go...
  7. Ah, doors are, imo, the biggest challenge with...

    Ah, doors are, imo, the biggest challenge with realistic and/or color maps. The way I have chosen to deal with them is by showing them open. Opens doors are pretty recognizable. Here's an example;...
  8. "Some detail" is right, again about 40 locations...

    "Some detail" is right, again about 40 locations or so for the first 3 levels. The Lost Levels etc are smaller levels, but fully detailed the 3 levels defined there. Plus some of the 3E/4E books...
  9. It leaves out 80% or more of some of the levels....

    It leaves out 80% or more of some of the levels.

    Extrapolating from previously published maps, if one was to fully detail all the locations, without images and maps a complete Undermountain "book"...
  10. As others have said, it's what I expected and...

    As others have said, it's what I expected and what was hinted at prior to release. But, as others also said, you had to have paid careful attention.

    Remember, most D&Ders have never seen the old...
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    Yes.

    Yes.
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    I'm sorry, I don't remember you ever saying their...

    I'm sorry, I don't remember you ever saying their were any times that using illegally distributed content was not ethical. Feel free to clarify if you wish.
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    The disagreement is that Elf thinks it is ethical...

    The disagreement is that Elf thinks it is ethical to use material that is being illegally distributed if he legally owns it in a different format, I do not.
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    I do believe using something that is distributed...

    I do believe using something that is distributed illegally, and unethically per my views, as unethical. You feel it is ethical to use something that you know and acknowledge has an illegal aspect, I...
  15. Where do you keep your level 2 spells? *G*

    Where do you keep your level 2 spells? *G*
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    No I do not think it is comparable to typing in a...

    No I do not think it is comparable to typing in a song note by note. For many reasons, including that a song can not reproduced just with the notes, but a book can be reproduced with a bunch of...
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    So I don't get your point. Yes there is a...

    So I don't get your point. Yes there is a disconnect. But your smug and obtuse statement certainly doesn't clear anything up.

    Here's what I understand, please correct my misunderstanding(s);
    You...
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    You can get the access to the content you already...

    You can get the access to the content you already own, you can get access to content you own in a printed version in a digital version for free. And that seems to be your complaint. So, again, you...
  19. Thanks, I didn't want to do the math to answer...

    Thanks, I didn't want to do the math to answer this :)
  20. I did not stat them out as an NPC. If I did, it...

    I did not stat them out as an NPC. If I did, it would be 1hp and AC 12. Stats maybe around 6's except for a Dex of ~14? No real attack...

    Here's what I wrote (Note yet updated with Satyrn's ideas;...
  21. This thread contains a poll. Consider a VTT. It's not the same as in person,...

    Consider a VTT. It's not the same as in person, but it will let you play. IMO, the versatility and benefits far outweigh not being able to play :)
  22. Yea that works. Thanks :) What I've said (and...

    Yea that works. Thanks :)

    What I've said (and is from the 2E version) is that they prefer arcane books/parchment to non-magical.

    For reference, I've said minutes because when an infested item...
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    Hey, it would be nice if someone could get a...

    Hey, it would be nice if someone could get a discount for buying the content in a second format. But any means to accomplish that is rife with overhead costs and people falsifying the system as well....
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    [QUOTE=jgsugden;7523907] That's akin to...

    That's akin to putting in the spells from your ook yourself. The point is that you have to upload/import it yourself, you don't get the iTunes "version" itself.
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    Note sure it does, as pointed out by another, but...

    Note sure it does, as pointed out by another, but it does go to show me that Sage Advice is not infallible and is not RAW, it's just advice.


    I doubt they go out of their way to inform their...
  26. But color doesn't make a map too busy. Color used...

    But color doesn't make a map too busy. Color used correctly makes a map more informative. And easier to copy... again, depending upon your source and your copier, color doesn't impact that either....
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    Controlled distribution is not my preferred...

    Controlled distribution is not my preferred solution. A moral and ethical society is. But that's not something that can be regulated, it can only be educated.


    *lol* you're funny. What possible...
  28. I appreciate the warning. The ad copy is...

    I appreciate the warning. The ad copy is deceptive. IMO, mainly because the maps in DoMM only detail about 15% of what has previously been detailed for the Undermountain, I don't see how anyone can...
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    So, in today's world where just about anyone can...

    So, in today's world where just about anyone can convert a printed product to a digital product either for free (using a civic source like a library) or purchasing a multi-function printer for less...
  30. Thanks to both of you. The reason I'm wondering...

    Thanks to both of you. The reason I'm wondering is because I'm putting some bookworms into the Ultimate Undermountain. I want to give some reasonable guidance to the DMs on how if the bookworms...
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    I'm not saying that is a technical violation and...

    I'm not saying that is a technical violation and therefore also an ethical transgression. I'm saying it's an ethical transgression and a legal transgression.


    Well said. And I will say the whole,...
  32. Spellbooks, Spells, and the Number of Pages

    In previous editions, spells in a spellbook took 1 page for each level of the spell. I can't find anything in 5E that indicates this.

    I do find that a spellbook contains 100 pages. And the cost to...
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    You and Elf keep harping on this. I have...

    You and Elf keep harping on this. I have repeatedly said that converting something you own the rights for to another format for your own use is not illegal or immoral. What I have always been talking...
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    Well, seems we have different definitions of...

    Well, seems we have different definitions of 'theft' and neither is going to be convinced by the other. So no point in continuing that discussion.


    Yes, and more than I feel that you are reading...
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    So as long as you don't do the...

    So as long as you don't do the stealing/infringement, you are ok with the use of it? So why don't you (or do you?) download all your RPG content from various websites? They are all available and...
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    And I'll just ignore the insults, even though I...

    And I'll just ignore the insults, even though I disagree with your premise.


    I would disagree that only the spell lists benefit significantly from being formatted in a way other than on paper...
  37. This thread contains a poll. Yep, time a day. Have a friend who used to live...

    Yep, time a day.
    Have a friend who used to live in SoCal and if she wanted to get to the office at 9am, she had to leave by 7:10am. But if she left at 6am she would get there by 6:45 at the latest....
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    Well, as has already been pointed out by others,...

    Well, as has already been pointed out by others, the PHB is not needed to play the game, and not only for those that purchase the game, but for those that do not purchase the PHB the grimoire adds...
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    Funny how such a simple word, 'theft' is prone to...

    Funny how such a simple word, 'theft' is prone to be considered the language of rabid zealot. Taking a ten cent pack of gum from a convenience store is theft, yet I doubt using the word in such a way...
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    "A little bit" of theft is not ok. And its...

    "A little bit" of theft is not ok. And its actually against the posted rules of this website, though one of the longest and most active threads on this forums is all about this type of theft and...
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    Things like this is what I find really annoying....

    Things like this is what I find really annoying. Theft and piracy pretending to be something other than stealing from others and lowering the value of RPG authors efforts.
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    No, cuz what happens when a new sub-class comes...

    No, cuz what happens when a new sub-class comes out that has spells? You going to say, sorry, that spell from the PHB doesn't have 'new sub-class' listed so it can't use the spell?

    No, spell lists...
  43. Well, if FLGS shipment (and hence probably...

    Well, if FLGS shipment (and hence probably production) is 3 days delayed (just a WAG), then It would seem to me that Amazon shipments would be delayed a similar amount. Probably less because you can...
  44. No, there are 41. 102980 Now if you count a,b,...

    No, there are 41.
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    Now if you count a,b, c, d's then and I counted them right, there are 28 more. So 69 total.
  45. This thread contains a poll. I don't even know why most of those would be a...

    I don't even know why most of those would be a problem for a DM...

    Schedules - I'm the DM, I say when I'm going to run my game. Either it fits in your schedule or not, but there are so many...
  46. *LOL* Nice take away!

    *LOL* Nice take away!
  47. I would think that if the WPN outlets are getting...

    I would think that if the WPN outlets are getting delays, the general outlets (including Amazon) would get delayed too. I can't see WotC hanging the FLGSs out like that.
  48. Dungeon of the Mad Mage - Screen Grabs

    So here are a bunch of previews from the Fantasy Grounds version of DoMM. (Just downloaded it half an hour ago).

    Some of the maps that have been discussed elsewhere;
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    The index;
    102965...
  49. FG has just posted some new screen shots. They...

    FG has just posted some new screen shots. They have either enhanced or are providing color maps of some sort for their product.

    Just a few more hours until we can download!

    EDIT: forgot the...
  50. I'll chime in with the others here, why do they...

    I'll chime in with the others here, why do they need a stat block? And why why should they be powerful combatants? And, stat them as NPC with special abilities.

    Why should they have lots of hit...
  51. Not sure I remember. Don't think that's the one...

    Not sure I remember. Don't think that's the one from the original box set. Halls of Undermountain maybe? (though I thought 4E had the cataclysm damage)

    You can find larger versions with Google. No...
  52. Fantasy Grounds. I put in an overview map, and...

    Fantasy Grounds. I put in an overview map, and then pin each location. That pin is a link to a story 'object' which has description, boxed text, links to battlemaps, encounters (NPCs with...
  53. Yep, well, I'm proofing the first level now....

    Yep, well, I'm proofing the first level now. Don't have the other levels done yet, but have lots drafted. Wanted to wait until DoMM so I can better integrate with their storylines etc.
    ...
  54. Absolutely. But 41 isn't sufficient for me....

    Absolutely. But 41 isn't sufficient for me. Hence; https://www.facebook.com/UltimateUndermountain
  55. Here's one of the earlier edition maps......

    Here's one of the earlier edition maps... http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_R6gmmj18_yU/S8bYmbf9Z0I/AAAAAAAAABc/1EIgwGNPJr0/s320/map11_MarkRef.jpg
  56. 9th for WPN, 20th for general distribution. Is...

    9th for WPN, 20th for general distribution.

    Is that impressive or depressing? You know the original had something like 400 right?

    Thanks!

    Again, that impresses you? Cuz you know the original...
  57. Nonsense? Maybe to you. Play how you want. But...

    Nonsense? Maybe to you. Play how you want.
    But the default assumption in 5E is that NPCs do not have PC levels. Lots of people like that.
    Play how you want, but please don't insult or belittle...
  58. Only if their are magic shops or magic services...

    Only if their are magic shops or magic services for sale.

    If not, and if NPC don't have PC classes, then clone and wish spells are incredibly rare, and probably can't be bought, even by the...
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    I don't use towers, but if I did; - collapsible...

    I don't use towers, but if I did;
    - collapsible so I can carry and/or store it easily
    - if it were castle-like, I might use it as a display trinket
    - not loud, I hate loud dice cups and towers, it...
  60. No it doesn't matter. Because PC's either die...

    No it doesn't matter.

    Because PC's either die or level out of the game before they get that old. And NPC's are whatever the DM says they are.

    So, no, it doesn't matter, unless you choose to...
  61. Thanks :)

    Thanks :)
  62. What do you want it to be? You table, your rules....

    What do you want it to be? You table, your rules.

    Me, we use the 5/10 diagonal as well. And when a square is difficult it costs double, so moving into a difficult terrain square costs 10 or 20,...
  63. CR Review: Clockwork Dragon, Steel, Tiny

    So anyone care to give me a sanity check on the challenge rating of this creature I made?
    Thanks!
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    Zapp, It seems to me that the only system that...

    Zapp, It seems to me that the only system that would make you happy is one that is detailed and accurate to a level that just isn't even possible.

    Take a look at any of the major economic models...
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    Im skeptical too. But it not like we, or anyone...

    Im skeptical too. But it not like we, or anyone really, have any say what others do. They don't need our permission and we certainly don't get a vote, other than with if we chose to watch.
  66. Actually a database is a better format for a full...

    Actually a database is a better format for a full megadungeon :) I'll begin releasing a FG version within a day of DoMM early release date.

    Even a PDF is a poor format, but I will be making a PDF...
  67. It's both. - It is a complete campaign taking...

    It's both.
    - It is a complete campaign taking you from 5-20th levels.
    - It is also ONLY an overview of the Undermountain.

    Yes it has maps for all 23 levels. But, from hints given it seems it...
  68. Also note that an active roll result normally has...

    Also note that an active roll result normally has a 'floor' value equal to your passive perception. So, if detecting a seam in the wall (where a secret door is) requires a DC 15 passive Perception,...
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    This is only true if DPR is your only/primary...

    This is only true if DPR is your only/primary concern. If you regularly require skill checks to overcome adversity, then it's easy to setup situations where you might need both Dex and Str,...
  70. I don't know, you'll have to look at your legal...

    I don't know, you'll have to look at your legal contract with your credit card company. Or you know, call them and ask :)

    And of course, next time don't wait six years. I mean at what point did...
  71. If you paid with a credit card (always good...

    If you paid with a credit card (always good advice), all you had to do was contact them and dispute the charge. Since you never received the goods or services you paid for, they would refund your...
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    Well, as I think others have pointed out, all...

    Well, as I think others have pointed out, all those things the OP doesn't like really isn't a problem with 5E, but rather either;
    - an approach the OP prefers that fails to utilize these things well...
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    Umm, I would assume either the numbers were...

    Umm, I would assume either the numbers were insignificant (<100?) or were grouped into CoreRPG. I don't see an "Other" category.

    I would assume @smiteworks will have to be the one to give an...
  74. I think WotC has made it pretty clear that they...

    I think WotC has made it pretty clear that they are not just going to put together a bunch of monsters to fill in any perceived missing or lacking areas. They expect the community to do that as we...
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    Those numbers only include sessions where at...

    Those numbers only include sessions where at least one player connects and the session lasts at least so long long (maybe 1 hour, not sure) and that those sessions connect to the FG license server.
    ...
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    Not very in-depth. It was interesting to be...

    Not very in-depth.

    It was interesting to be reminded that the blades are water quenched. Makes for a harder steel, but requires more experience than oil as it is less forgiving.
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    Yes, I know of a dozen or so. But that's not...

    Yes, I know of a dozen or so. But that's not statistically relevant.

    This data is only through the end of September. So the Roll 20 fallout won't be shown. Next quarter data for FG, and especially...
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    Except only those that play a certain way win the...

    Except only those that play a certain way win the $5000...
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    What do you want them to be? It really seems...

    What do you want them to be?

    It really seems that you are trying to put definitive metrics to things that do not have distinct categories or values that can be assigned to them.

    But, if it...
  80. How come the party knows they are about to...

    How come the party knows they are about to encounter the BBEG?
    How come the BBEG has no guards or magic to warn of stealthy enemies?
    How come the party can identify the BBEG when they enter the...
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    "assume", "assume", "suppose" But what if the...

    "assume", "assume", "suppose"
    But what if the fireball only hits 1 target? Or it hits 20...

    And if the adventure is in a dungeon with 10 foot ceilings and no chasms to cross, then fly is not...
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    Another perspective, or corollary to this, is...

    Another perspective, or corollary to this, is since we know the number of D&D players has more than doubled in the last few years, and I'm pretty sure that the number of people discussing DPR and...
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    Castles are cool. But they are pretty useless...

    Castles are cool.

    But they are pretty useless against 10th+ level casters who have spells that are just as powerful to destroy and bypass those walls and tunnels in a few rounds that you have...
  84. Do it. Plan a short 3-4 session intro story arc....

    Do it. Plan a short 3-4 session intro story arc. Don't go over board. Don't stress. Have fun.
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    D&D has the Shadowfell that could server this...

    D&D has the Shadowfell that could server this purpose. You players could be sent to the Shadowfell to retrieve their companion and then have to get the MacGuffin to allow them to come back. I suspect...
  86. For those of you interested, Newsweek picked it...

    For those of you interested, Newsweek picked it up.
    https://www.newsweek.com/roll20-reddit-nolant-jones-apostleo-apostleoftruth-dungeons-and-dragons-ban-1142706
  87. Nolan, and the other staff of Roll20 have behaved...

    Nolan, and the other staff of Roll20 have behaved in this way for years on their own forums and reddit. This attitude and type of behavior comes from the top. It's simple that this time they did it...
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    See my opinion on this is diametrically opposed...

    See my opinion on this is diametrically opposed to your opinion on this. I have no problem with using FG as a reference, so I see no need for DDB and wouldn't bother investing in it.

    I would take...
  89. Good to see some some recognition thrown Dave's...

    Good to see some some recognition thrown Dave's way. I always felt EGG just gets too much credit. Good luck to you all :)
  90. Yes, DotMM won't be exhaustive. A single book...

    Yes, DotMM won't be exhaustive. A single book can't detail it. It's in the neighborhood of 4000-6000 unique locations. Even at 4 rooms per page that's over 1000 pages.


    Nope. They will offer...
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    Yea, it does. First thing, just because their is...

    Yea, it does. First thing, just because their is evil, doesn't mean you should fight it. Especially in a city adventure, their HAVE to be major badies around. If it was as easy as a first level party...
  92. There used to be a store near me that all they...

    There used to be a store near me that all they did was resell stuff on eBay for others. They cataloged it, they took the pictures, they did the research on pricing, they listed it, they sold it, etc....
  93. Any tactic you allow the NPCs to use you better...

    Any tactic you allow the NPCs to use you better plan on allowing the PCs to use. And in my experience, tactics such as these are MUCH more powerful in the hands of the PCs then they ever will in in...
  94. Undermountain Locale: Altar of the Spider God

    Just posted to the Guild! Altar of the Spider God. First in a series that gives single locations in a dungeon, fully detailed and includes alternate ideas and full color maps.
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  95. In 40 years of running all types of campaigns...

    In 40 years of running all types of campaigns I've never run into a problem like those. Shasarak's solution has always worked for me and I've never made a big deal about it and I don't remember a...
  96. See to me a timeline is something that shouldn't...

    See to me a timeline is something that shouldn't always "be in the past". Because, who to say when a given campaign is set? A GM should be able to pick any era in a timeline and use that for their...
  97. Non-Static. Settings should have various eras...

    Non-Static.

    Settings should have various eras that a campaign should be set in. Personally making the ruleset edition correspond to the era is... a poor tool used to incorporate novels and...
  98. *lol* Too much for some, too little for others. I...

    *lol* Too much for some, too little for others. I guess that means that maybe WotC got the amount of content/detail right?
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    Could be. Let's see. 9 million players. If 1/5 of...

    Could be. Let's see. 9 million players. If 1/5 of those is a DM that's 1.8 million DM's and 14k of 1.8m is 0.8% of DM's belong to the AL Facebook group.

    Even if 1/10 are DMs, then that's 900k DM's...
  100. Since the origin may or may not be included...

    Since the origin may or may not be included (casters choice) the caster can drop thunderwave on themselves without hurting themselves.
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