CR rating for advanced monsters?

Plane Sailing

Astral Admin - Mwahahaha!

• Apr 22, 2002

• #1

I'm afraid I can't track down the official word on this (and I don't know whether people are finding it works out in practice anyway...)

So how do YOU estimate CR when you advance a creatures HD? If a Vrock is CR 13 and you want to throw a Huge 24HD Vrock (maximum advancement) at them... what CR equivalent is that? Relatively how dangerous is it?

When you try to estimate the threat of advanced creatures what method do you use?

 

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RogueJK

It's not "Rouge"... That's makeup.

• Apr 22, 2002

• #2

This can be found in the MM errata. It says:

"p. 14, Replace the Challenge Rating note with:
Each 50% increase to the creature's original HD increases the CR of a monster by 1. Doubling the HD raises the CR by 2. Tripling the HD raises the CR by 4."

 

Last edited: Apr 22, 2002

dcollins

Explorer

• Apr 22, 2002

• #3

RogueJK said:

This can be found in the MM errata...

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And this is the same rule as on DMG p. 102: Under the heading "Tougher Monsters", first paragraph, last sentence.

 

Grazzt

Demon Lord

• Apr 22, 2002

• #4

RogueJK has got it correct.

 

kreynolds

First Post

• Apr 22, 2002

• #5

Plane Sailing said:

When you try to estimate the threat of advanced creatures what method do you use?

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First, I use the guidelines released in Dragon to get a rough number. Then there's playtesting. Lots and lots of playtesting.

 

Shin Okada

Explorer

• Apr 22, 2002

• #6

Re: Re: CR rating for advanced monsters?

kreynolds said:

First, I use the guidelines released in Dragon to get a rough number. Then there's playtesting. Lots and lots of playtesting.

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Me too!

 

M

milo

First Post

• Apr 22, 2002

• #7

I don't like this method, I can't help but think of a 60 HD great red wyrm as a CR 26. Just guess at what you think is appropriate.

 

kreynolds

First Post

• Apr 22, 2002

• #8

milo said:

I don't like this method...

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Ummm....which method? Are you referring to this one?

Each 50% increase to the creature's original HD increases the CR of a monster by 1. Doubling the HD raises the CR by 2. Tripling the HD raises the CR by 4."

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Plane Sailing

Astral Admin - Mwahahaha!

• Apr 23, 2002

• #9

Thanks very much for the input. I couldn't find it in the MM and even though I had a cursory look in the DMG word-blindness afflicted me and I didn't see it.

Thanks.

(nb that 24HD vrock is CR17 by this estimation... I wonder how that pans out in practice?)