(Proposal) Blind from Birth Template

Rystil Arden · Jun 13, 2007

orsal said:
Actually, it should be Blindsense 30' -- there's a feat to extend it.

Ah yes, hence the Wisdom 17. Still, it shouldn't be Blindsight. I looked at that character sheet and gaped that the Judges had allowed Blindsight through before I was around here to shoot it down, but then when I saw this actual thread, I saw that the real version was much more balanced.

Solnath · Jun 13, 2007

*facepalms*

So, which one is the official version? Because blindsight 5 feet would come in handy in some situations.

Rae ArdGaoth · Jun 14, 2007

Knight Otu's version is the approved one, and it doesn't include blindsight. Just 15' blindsense.

Solnath · Jun 16, 2007

Right, so so far haven't had a chance to test the combat capabilities of the character, which will indubitably suck, but I like the flavour the template is bringing. I think that if someone wanted Blind-born characters to be more closer to normal characters concerning their PWRLVL (power level), the template should offer a chance to use a feat to purchase "Blindsight 5 feet" for the sake of survival in melee. Not that it concerns my Sammy, who is not combat-oriented.

EDIT: And I think that spells/powers that circumvent the blindness instead of removing it should daze and disorient the character.

Rae ArdGaoth · Jun 16, 2007

Solnath said:
the template should offer a chance to use a feat to purchase "Blindsight 5 feet" for the sake of survival in melee.

Blind-fight?

Solnath said:
And I think that spells/powers that circumvent the blindness instead of removing it should daze and disorient the character.

We addressed that with "Ignorant of Sight".

Someone · Jun 16, 2007

Solnath said:
EDIT: And I think that spells/powers that circumvent the blindness instead of removing it should daze and disorient the character.

It'd be a bit inconsistent, since there are spells that grant you Scent, Tremorsense, allow you to see auras, or transform you into an entirely new creature and don't disorient or daze you.

EternalSword · Jun 16, 2007

Flavorwise, a spell or power that grant new senses has elements to help the subject interpret them. A spell to cure blindness doesn't. Theoretically, I suppose, you could make a custom spell to handle that, but it would be dispellable and for balance has to negate the template.

Solnath · Jun 16, 2007

Someone said:
It'd be a bit inconsistent, since there are spells that grant you Scent, Tremorsense, allow you to see auras, or transform you into an entirely new creature and don't disorient or daze you.

True, but then again I don't think those work completely logically either.

EternalSword · Jun 16, 2007

Actually, 3.5 is the only version with no disorientation on polymorph. 2E used to have a slight chance of turning into the creature mentally as well as physically.