This is the multi-year Q&A sessions held by D&D co-creator Gary Gygax here at EN World, beginning in 2002 and running up until his sad pasing in 2008. Gary's username in the thread below is Col_Pladoh, and his first post in this long thread is Post #39.
TSR Q&A with Gary Gygax
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This is the multi-year Q&A sessions held by D&D co-creator Gary Gygax here at EN World, beginning in 2002 and running up until his sad pasing in 2008. Gary's username in the thread below is Col_Pladoh, and his first post in this long thread is Post #39.
Dragon Magazine covered a lot of these deities back "in the day."
Also, download a copy of the Living Greyhawk Campaign Sourcebook. There's some more information there.
Allitur was the Flan god of law and justice, basically the "lawyer's god." Zuoken first appeared in 2nd edition, I think, and is a baklunish demi-god or hero-god whose patron is Xan-Yae.
I just did a quick search on those deities and found a few sources on the web.
Also, download a copy of the Living Greyhawk Campaign Sourcebook. There's some more information there.
Allitur was the Flan god of law and justice, basically the "lawyer's god." Zuoken first appeared in 2nd edition, I think, and is a baklunish demi-god or hero-god whose patron is Xan-Yae.
I just did a quick search on those deities and found a few sources on the web.
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Tarek said:
Thanks for the info.
Yes - I searched high and low in the dragon magazines - there was information on alot of deities in there, and helped fill up my binder 'o gods
I am not real interested in the Living Greyhawk stuff though, as it is over 20 years removed from the Gygax era at TSR, and things get changed. I would love to find 1st generation information if possible Eric
Moggthegob
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erc1971 said:
You probably already know this but on the Living greyhawk paget hey have a deity listing and fluff on a few of those notably i think Atroa, Allitur, Zuoken, Blerred, Wenta, Geshtai, and Joramy
I just noticed that you said no LG stuff. woops. Anyway its still good info and i know that it draws on alot ofdifferent sources including those dungeon articles.
Col_Pladoh
Gary Gygax
Another case of failed ENW server notification of posts here...
As for the Arduin Grimoire, the tone and content were so unappealing to me that I had to both ignore it and parody it at the same time. OTOH, I have met a few decent gamers that used it for some source material, even layed a campaign based on the system. Very different strokes indeed to my way of thinking.
As for the deities lacking detail, I had at least a sentence or two on each, but to the best of my recollection all such notes were either turned over to TSR back in 1985 or lost in multiple moves prior to that date or subsequently. Of course I have virtually no recollection of their rank, powers, and concerns after so many years--and extensove research of actual mythology, adding my own material, for the finally upcoming Lejendary Pantheons.
Cheers,
Gary
As for the Arduin Grimoire, the tone and content were so unappealing to me that I had to both ignore it and parody it at the same time. OTOH, I have met a few decent gamers that used it for some source material, even layed a campaign based on the system. Very different strokes indeed to my way of thinking.
As for the deities lacking detail, I had at least a sentence or two on each, but to the best of my recollection all such notes were either turned over to TSR back in 1985 or lost in multiple moves prior to that date or subsequently. Of course I have virtually no recollection of their rank, powers, and concerns after so many years--and extensove research of actual mythology, adding my own material, for the finally upcoming Lejendary Pantheons.
Cheers,
Gary
king_ghidorah
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Hi, Gary,
In a fit of nostalgia, I unpacked my copy of the original 3-booklet boxed set and found a reference in book I (Men and Magic), page 10 under the ability section that stated:
"Clerics can use strength on a 3 for basis in their prime requisite area (wisdom), for purposes of gaining experience only." Likewise, ther is a comment under Intelligence that "Both fighters and Clerics can use it in their prime requisite areas... on a 2 for 1 basis." Similar comments are made about wisdom for fighting men (counting 3 for 1) and magic users (2 for 1).
What the heck does that mean? That, for instance, clerics can add Wisdom + 1/3 of their Strength to determine their experience bonus? Or am I misreading this?
In a fit of nostalgia, I unpacked my copy of the original 3-booklet boxed set and found a reference in book I (Men and Magic), page 10 under the ability section that stated:
"Clerics can use strength on a 3 for basis in their prime requisite area (wisdom), for purposes of gaining experience only." Likewise, ther is a comment under Intelligence that "Both fighters and Clerics can use it in their prime requisite areas... on a 2 for 1 basis." Similar comments are made about wisdom for fighting men (counting 3 for 1) and magic users (2 for 1).
What the heck does that mean? That, for instance, clerics can add Wisdom + 1/3 of their Strength to determine their experience bonus? Or am I misreading this?
Moggthegob
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I think this ma be the wrong thread. we have movedo nt oI believe ask Gary XIII. You probably wont get an answer here.
king_ghidorah
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Hi, Gary,
In a fit of nostalgia, I unpacked my copy of the original 3-booklet boxed set and found a reference in book I (Men and Magic), page 10 under the ability section that stated:
"Clerics can use strength on a 3 for basis in their prime requisite area (wisdom), for purposes of gaining experience only." Likewise, ther is a comment under Intelligence that "Both fighters and Clerics can use it in their prime requisite areas... on a 2 for 1 basis." Similar comments are made about wisdom for fighting men (counting 3 for 1) and magic users (2 for 1).
What the heck does that mean? That, for instance, clerics can add Wisdom + 1/3 of their Strength to determine their experience bonus?
Doug
In a fit of nostalgia, I unpacked my copy of the original 3-booklet boxed set and found a reference in book I (Men and Magic), page 10 under the ability section that stated:
"Clerics can use strength on a 3 for basis in their prime requisite area (wisdom), for purposes of gaining experience only." Likewise, ther is a comment under Intelligence that "Both fighters and Clerics can use it in their prime requisite areas... on a 2 for 1 basis." Similar comments are made about wisdom for fighting men (counting 3 for 1) and magic users (2 for 1).
What the heck does that mean? That, for instance, clerics can add Wisdom + 1/3 of their Strength to determine their experience bonus?
Doug
Col_Pladoh
Gary Gygax
You got it.king_ghidorah said:
It seemed like a good idea at the time, this substitution enabling the 10% XP bonus to PCs with high abilities assocoated with but not their prime one, such as the cleric using 3 Str to equal 1 Wis.
DMs didn't think it was a particularly useful rule, so it was dropped.
Cheerio,
Gary
Col_Pladoh
Gary Gygax
Those monstrous creatures were never native to any human planetGeoffrey said:
I my mind they came from another plane, managed to find their way to the Oerth...although they could be spacefaring aliens whose ship crashed on the planet marooning them, the occupants being sufficiently numerous to have a viable breeding population.
Cheers,
Gary
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