The Lance

Bront · Jun 8, 2005

Bunch of questions about a lance.

Can you use a lance while not on a horse?

If you use it on a horse, since it's considered 1 handed, you don't get 1.5 x str?

Can you attack when not charging with a lance?

any other odd tidbits about the lance beyond the double mounted charge damage?

Patryn of Elvenshae · Jun 8, 2005

Bront said:
Can you use a lance while not on a horse?

Yes.

If you use it on a horse, since it's considered 1 handed, you don't get 1.5 x str?

The consensus is that it is not considered one-handed. It is, still, a two-handed weapon, with the bonus of being able to be used in one hand.

Note that one-handed weapons actually have things like different hit points and hardness, so the change is nontrivial.

Can you attack when not charging with a lance?

Yes.

Hypersmurf · Jun 8, 2005

Bront said:
Can you use a lance while not on a horse?

Yes. It's a two-handed weapon, that can be used in one hand while mounted. If you're not mounted, you can still use it in two hands.

If you use it on a horse, since it's considered 1 handed, you don't get 1.5 x str?

As written in the PHB, it is not 'considered a one-handed weapon'. It's a two-handed weapon, that can be wielded in one hand. Two-handed weapons add 1.5x Str bonus to damage.

Can you attack when not charging with a lance?

Yes, but you don't get the double damage.

any other odd tidbits about the lance beyond the double mounted charge damage?

Look up the effects of being a two-handed weapon on the Power Attack feat, and the Disarm special attack.

-Hyp.

Bront · Jun 8, 2005

Cool. Just making sure.

Seems strange to be waving a lance around unmounted, but I guess I can see it. Obviously, there are more effective weapons out there than a lance if you're not gonna be mounted with it regularly.

I remember some confusion with AU about characters dual wielding heavy lances while on foot (Um, no).

Hypersmurf · Jun 8, 2005

Bront said:
I remember some confusion with AU about characters dual wielding heavy lances while on foot (Um, no).

Well, in 3E, a heavy lance was a Medium weapon (effectively a one-handed weapon), so the same trick was possible. In 3.5, they changed it to a two-handed weapon that could be wielded in one hand while mounted.

-Hyp.

werk · Jun 8, 2005

Hypersmurf said:
Well, in 3E, a heavy lance was a Medium weapon (effectively a one-handed weapon), so the same trick was possible. In 3.5, they changed it to a two-handed weapon that could be wielded in one hand while mounted.

So...hypothetically, a mounted TWF could use two lances? (mental image)

Infiniti2000 · Jun 8, 2005

Hypothetically, yes. And get x1.5 damage on both.

BullMarkOne · Jun 8, 2005

Hypersmurf said:
Look up the effects of being a two-handed weapon on the Power Attack feat, and the Disarm special attack.
-Hyp.

So, lance + power attack + charge = nice free easy +4 damage.. does this then double because of the charge?

jRocket · Jun 8, 2005

Yes. Throw Spirited Charge in there and it gets sick.

BullMarkOne · Jun 8, 2005

jRocket said:
Yes. Throw Spirited Charge in there and it gets sick.

Oh Dear God! You could do that with a second level human fighter! Now I can't wait until my pc's run afoul of the local nomadic steppes riders... MUHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

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