Thanee said:AmorFati, please note, that a sudden metamagicked spell would also count as a higher level spell for the purpose of storing it in a ring of spellstoring (or creating a magic item, etc).
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Thanee
Thanee said:It's just common sense.
The sudden feats are balanced with the 1/day limit versus the spontaneous use/no level increase.
For magic items, the 1/day limit does not apply, as they have their own limits, which are independent of that one.
It's only reasonable to have the benefit not apply as well then, and refer to the regular metamagic feat, mimicked by the sudden one.
Think about this way... if it was not like that, you could create a wand of quickened, empowered, maximized enervation for the same cost as normal wand of enervation and stuff like that.
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Thanee
Name: Warfiend.
Class: Favored Soul (of Hextor) 11
Race: Aasimar
Size: Medium
Gender: Male
Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Str: 16 +3 ( 6p. +2 level advancement)
Dex: 12 +1 ( 4p. )
Con: 16 +3 ( 4p. +4 enhancement)
Int: 10 +0 ( 2p. )
Wis: 18 +4 ( 10p. +2 racial)
Cha: 20 +5 ( 6p. +2 racial +4 enhancement)
ECL: 12 XP: 66000
BAB: +8/+3 HP: 101 (11d8+33)
Grapple: +11 Dmg Red: 3/- (adamantine heavy armor)
Speed: 20' Spell Res: -
Init: +1 Spell Save: -
ACP: -5 Spell Fail: -
Base Armor Shld Dex Size Nat Misc Total
Armor= 20 10 8 1 1
Touch: 11 Flatfooted: 19
Saves:
Base Mod Misc Total
Fort: 7 +3 +3 +13
Ref: 7 +1 +3 +11
Will: 7 +4 +3 +14
Racial and class abilities:
Aasimar:
-Native outsider type: Darkvision 60 feet, can be raised and resurrected.
-+2 Wisdom, +2 Charisma
-Resistance to acid, cold and electricity 5
-Daylight 1/day with a CL of 11
-+2 to Spot and Listen checks (already accounted in the skills)
Favored soul:
-Proficiency with all simple weapons and light flail, all shields (but not tower shields), light and medium armor.
-Spells
-Weapon focus (Flail) bonus feat.
-Energy resistance 10 (Fire and Sonic)
Weapon Attack Damage
+2 cold iron Light flail +14+9 1d8+5
Dagger (melee) +11+6 1d4+3
Dagger (ranged) +9+4 1d4+3
Languages: Common, Celestial.
Feats:
Heavy armor proficiency (1st level)
Augmented healing (3rd level)
Weapon Focus (flail) (3rd level favored soul bonus feat)
Power attack (6th level)
Cleave (9th)
Skill Points: 28 Max Ranks: 14/7
Skills Ranks Mod Misc Total
Concentration 14 +3 +17
Heal 4 +4 +8
Sense Motive 10 +4 +14
Diplomacy 0 +5 +2 +7
Intimidate 0 +5 +2 +7
Spot 0 +4 +2 +6
Listen 0 +4 +2 +6
Spells per day: (6/8/7/7/7/5) Save DC: 14 + spell level
Spells known:
5th level: Flame strike, Spell resistance, Slay living.
4th level: Cure critical wounds, Recitation, Divine power, Restoration.
3rd level: Mass resist energy, Magic circle against chaos, Dispel magic, Magic Vestment, Invisibility purge.
2nd level: Cure moderate wounds, Spiritual weapon, Owl´s Wisdom, Hold Person, Death knell, Shatter
1st level: Divine favor, Shield of faith, Resurgence, Command, Remove fear, Obscuring mist.
Orisons: Detect magic, Read magic, Cure minor wounds, Create water, Detect Poison, Guidance, Light, Mending, Purify food and drink.
Equipment: Cost
Tattoo of amity free
Adamantine full plate 16,5k
MW Buckler 0,15k
+2 cold iron light flail 10k
Cloak of charisma +4 16k
Amulet of health +4 16k
Winged boots 16k
Vest of resistance +3 9k
Wand of lesser vigor 0,75k
Ring of counterspells 4k
(with Dispel Magic)
Divine focus (defaced symbol of Heironeous)
Spell component pouch
Restoration MCx3 0,3k
Scroll of Raise dead 6,125k
Money: 5000 gp
Age: ??
Height: 6´2´´
Weight: 200 lb
Eyes: Golden
Hair: WhiteAmorFati said:
Name: "Screech"
Class: Warmage 12
Race: Human
Size: Medium
Gender: Male
Alignment: N
Str: 12 +1 Level: 12 XP: 66000/78000
Dex: 14 +2 BAB: +6/1 HP: 84 (12d6+24)
Con: 14 +2 Grapple: +7 Dmg Red:
Int: 14 +2 Speed: 40' Spell Res:
Wis: 12 +2 Init: +2 Spell Save:
Cha: 20 +5 ACP: Spell Fail:
Base Armor Shld Dex Size Nat Misc Total
Armor: 10 +9 +4 +2 +0 +0 +0 25
Touch: 12 Flatfooted: 23
Base Mod Misc Total
Fort: 4 +1 +3 +8
Ref: 4 +2 +3 +9
Will: 8 +1 +3 +12
Weapon Attack Damage Critical Range
Light Crossbow +1 +9 1d8+1 19-20x2 80'
Morningstar +1 +8/+3 1d8+2 20x2
Languages: Common, Draconic, Infernal
Abilities:
Advanced Learning
Armored Mage (light)
Armored Mage (medium)
Prof. Light Armor
Prof. Shields
Prof. Simple Weapons
Spells
Sudden Empower
Sudden Enlarge
Warmage Edge - +2 damage with damaging spells
Tattoo of Amity - +2 Morale bonus to Diplomacy and Intimidate
Spellcasting:
Warmage: DC 15+ (CL12)
0: 6 1st: 8 2nd: 7 3rd: 7 4th: 7 5th: 6 6th: 3
Feats:
Chain Spell
Energy Admixture: Sonic
Energy Substitution: Sonic
Maximize Spell
Point Blank Shot
Precise Shot
Skill Points: 60 Max Ranks: 15/7.5
Skills Ranks Mod Misc Total
Appraise 0 +2 +2
Balance 0 +2 +2 +4
Bluff 0 +5 +5
Climb 0 +1 +1
Concentration 15 +2 +17
Diplomacy 0 +5 +2 +7
Disguise 0 +5 +5
Escape Artist 0 +2 +2
Forgery 0 +2 +2
Gather Information 0 +5 +5
Heal 9 +5 +2 +16
Intimidate 0 +5 +2 +7
Jump 0 +1 +11 +12
KN: Arcana 15 +2 +17
Listen 0 +1 +1
Move Silently 7.5 +2 +9.5
Ride 0 +2 +2
Search 0 +2 +2
Sense Motive 0 +1 +1
Spellcraft 15 +2 +2 +19
Spot 0 +1 +1
Survival 0 +1 +1
Swim 0 +1 +1
Tumble 7.5 +2 +9.5
Use Rope 0 +2 +2
Equipment: Cost Weight
Tattoo of Amity
Mithril Chain Shirt +5 26100 10
Mithril Buckler +3 9165 2
Light Crossbow +1 2335 4
Circlet of Resistance +3 9000
Ring of Counter Spells (Disintegrate) 4000
Ring of Sustenance 2500
Cloak of Charisma +2 4000 2
Amulet of Health +2 4000
Boots of Striding and Springing 5500 1
Vestments of Steadfast Spellcasting 25000
40 Bolts 4 4
Handy Haversack 2000 5
-Bedroll
-2 Waterskins
-4 Sunrods
-10 Days Rations
-Winter Blankek
-Case, Map or Scroll
-Flask
-Flint and steel
-Ink (vial) 2
-Inkpen
-Mirror, small steel
-Paper (sheet) 4
-Paper (parchment) 4
-Soap 1 lb
Total Weight:34lb Money: 4042gp 5sp 7cp
Lgt Med Hvy Lift Push
Max Weight: 43 86 130 260 650
Age: 25
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 130lb
Eyes: Blue
Hair: Black
Skin: Tanned
