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    Hey Akira,

    Quote Originally Posted by Akira Whitlock View Post
    there are a couple metamagic feats, automatic metamagic capacity, metamagic freedom, spell amplification
    thats about it for metamagic
    True but I think all the basics were already covered by the original Metamagic Feats in the PHB. So once you have Automatic Metamagic Capacity you can simply stack on the others.

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    After doing a little math i feel stacking metamagic gets out of hand after a while
    Going by what you stated a while back for having two empowers equal x2 for a +4 levels
    A deity with 200 HD would not be able to survive a spell casted by another deity with 200hd
    Quick math, level 10 fireball + 44 empowers(22 doubles) = level 98 spell
    (20 x (2 ^ 22)) = 41 million d6 = 146 million(average 3.5)
    I feel i am doing math very wrong or it is simply broken.
    a deity with 200 hd would have approximately 200k hp
    even if all dice rolled were ones it would still not survive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira Whitlock View Post
    After doing a little math i feel stacking metamagic gets out of hand after a while
    Going by what you stated a while back for having two empowers equal x2 for a +4 levels
    A deity with 200 HD would not be able to survive a spell casted by another deity with 200hd
    Quick math, level 10 fireball + 44 empowers(22 doubles) = level 98 spell
    (20 x (2 ^ 22)) = 41 million d6 = 146 million(average 3.5)
    I feel i am doing math very wrong or it is simply broken.
    a deity with 200 hd would have approximately 200k hp
    even if all dice rolled were ones it would still not survive
    Yes you are doing the math wrong (if I remember correctly).

    Two empowers would equal x2, four = x3, six = x4, eight = x5.

    You seem to be multiplying them by each other:

    2, 4, 8, 16 etc

    when its more like

    2, 3, 4, 5, etc.

    Empowers do not multiply each other. They simply stack, THEN you apply the multiplier.

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    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH now i get it, i was always very confused about the math people were doing in this forum

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