Immortals Handbook - Grimoire (Artifacts, Epic Magic discussion) - Page 51

# Thread: Immortals Handbook - Grimoire (Artifacts, Epic Magic discussion)

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Hey Akira,

Originally Posted by Akira Whitlock
there are a couple metamagic feats, automatic metamagic capacity, metamagic freedom, spell amplification
True but I think all the basics were already covered by the original Metamagic Feats in the PHB. So once you have Automatic Metamagic Capacity you can simply stack on the others.

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After doing a little math i feel stacking metamagic gets out of hand after a while
Going by what you stated a while back for having two empowers equal x2 for a +4 levels
A deity with 200 HD would not be able to survive a spell casted by another deity with 200hd
Quick math, level 10 fireball + 44 empowers(22 doubles) = level 98 spell
(20 x (2 ^ 22)) = 41 million d6 = 146 million(average 3.5)
I feel i am doing math very wrong or it is simply broken.
a deity with 200 hd would have approximately 200k hp
even if all dice rolled were ones it would still not survive

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Originally Posted by Akira Whitlock
After doing a little math i feel stacking metamagic gets out of hand after a while
Going by what you stated a while back for having two empowers equal x2 for a +4 levels
A deity with 200 HD would not be able to survive a spell casted by another deity with 200hd
Quick math, level 10 fireball + 44 empowers(22 doubles) = level 98 spell
(20 x (2 ^ 22)) = 41 million d6 = 146 million(average 3.5)
I feel i am doing math very wrong or it is simply broken.
a deity with 200 hd would have approximately 200k hp
even if all dice rolled were ones it would still not survive
Yes you are doing the math wrong (if I remember correctly).

Two empowers would equal x2, four = x3, six = x4, eight = x5.

You seem to be multiplying them by each other:

2, 4, 8, 16 etc

when its more like

2, 3, 4, 5, etc.

Empowers do not multiply each other. They simply stack, THEN you apply the multiplier.

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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH now i get it, i was always very confused about the math people were doing in this forum