Unconverted White Dwarf creatures

Echohawk

Shirokinukatsukami fan
This list should be complete now, based on on Garnfellow's excellent research checked against print copies of issues 1-93.

White Dwarf:
  • Algroths (White Dwarf #56)
  • Amorph (White Dwarf #48)
  • Anak (White Dwarf #49)
  • Antmen, Soldiers (White Dwarf #37)
  • Antmen, Workers (White Dwarf #37)
  • Anubi (White Dwarf #29)
  • Aphrodite's Nemesis (White Dwarf #73)
  • Archveults (White Dwarf #58)
  • Argorian Wormkin (White Dwarf #29)
  • Army Wasps (White Dwarf #73)
  • Banth (White Dwarf #5)
  • Bean-Nighe (White Dwarf #38)
  • Beggar-Louse, Giant (White Dwarf #35)
  • Beggar-Louse, Marsh (White Dwarf #35)
  • Beggar-Louse, Normal (White Dwarf #35)
  • Beggar-Louse, Sand (White Dwarf #35)
  • Beholder Variant, Fuzzy (White Dwarf #5)
  • Beholder Variant, Steely (White Dwarf #5)
  • B'krath (White Dwarf #48)
  • Black Annis (White Dwarf #38)
  • Black Leech (White Dwarf #4)
  • Black Monk (White Dwarf #4)
  • Black Orc (White Dwarf #4)
  • Blacklings (White Dwarf #44)
  • Blink Skeleton (White Dwarf #10)
  • Blood Spore (White Dwarf #60)
  • Bodach (White Dwarf #17)
  • Bogle (White Dwarf #38)
  • Bogy (White Dwarf #5)
  • Bonacon (White Dwarf #24)
  • Bragger (White Dwarf #10)
  • Brain Suckers (White Dwarf #25)
  • Buggane (Minor Demon) (White Dwarf #56)
  • Bug-Riders (White Dwarf #43)
  • Bug-Riders, Giant Black Ant (White Dwarf #43)
  • Bug-Riders, Giant 'Daddy Long-Legs' (White Dwarf #43)
  • Bug-Riders, Giant Red Ant (White Dwarf #43)
  • Bugs, Armbane Bug (White Dwarf #61)
  • Bugs, Buzzbug (White Dwarf #61)
  • Bugs, Gnaw Bug (White Dwarf #61)
  • Bugs, Milead Bug (White Dwarf #61)
  • Bugs, Stinger (White Dwarf #61)
  • Bush Cat (White Dwarf #60)
  • Cactus Cat (White Dwarf #64)
  • Caraxe (White Dwarf #61)
  • Cauldron-Born (White Dwarf #20)
  • Chameliad (White Dwarf #28)
  • Chthon (White Dwarf #21)
  • Chun (White Dwarf #58)
  • Cloocicus Simbiocicus (White Dwarf #8)
  • Cold Beast (White Dwarf #27)
  • Couerl (White Dwarf #18)
  • Cramesha (White Dwarf #63)
  • Creeper (White Dwarf #20)
  • Crestcat (White Dwarf #37)
  • Crimson Carpet (White Dwarf #46)
  • Crystal Golem (White Dwarf #22)
  • Cyborg (White Dwarf #5)
  • Cynopard (White Dwarf #5)
  • Dahdi (White Dwarf #10)
  • Dame Verte (White Dwarf #46)
  • Daoine Sidhe (White Dwarf #31)
  • Dark Bat (White Dwarf #35)
  • Darkhawk (White Dwarf #19)
  • Demon Queen (Banshee) (White Dwarf #7)
  • Dendridi (White Dwarf #31)
  • Deodands (White Dwarf #58)
  • Desert Orc (White Dwarf #64)
  • Desert Raider (White Dwarf #12)
  • Diabolo (White Dwarf #47)
  • Dokon (White Dwarf #9)
  • Dragon Dog (White Dwarf #15)
  • Dragon Warriors (White Dwarf #21)
  • Dragon, Blue Horror (White Dwarf #6)
  • Dragon, Fiend (White Dwarf #6)
  • Dragon, Longhorned Murderer (White Dwarf #6)
  • Dragon, Spider (White Dwarf #6)
  • Dragon, Striding Murderer (White Dwarf #6)
  • Dragon, Termagant (White Dwarf #6)
  • Drainwing (White Dwarf #49)
  • Driver Ant (White Dwarf #28)
  • Droll (White Dwarf #4)
  • Eastern Skeleton (White Dwarf #10)
  • Elementals of the Para-elemental Planes, Dust (White Dwarf #45)
  • Elementals of the Para-elemental Planes, Heat (White Dwarf #45)
  • Elementals of the Para-elemental Planes, Ice (White Dwarf #45)
  • Elementals of the Para-elemental Planes, Vapour (White Dwarf #45)
  • Embertree (White Dwarf #34)
  • Empipath (White Dwarf #19)
  • Energy Cyclone (White Dwarf #14)
  • Familiar (White Dwarf #10)
  • Fay Stirge (White Dwarf #38)
  • Fiend (White Dwarf #6)
  • Fire Tongues (White Dwarf #45)
  • Fire-Flower (White Dwarf #75)
  • Firvulag (White Dwarf #51)
  • Flame Beetles (White Dwarf #61)
  • Flying Fish (White Dwarf #9)
  • Flymen (White Dwarf #23)
  • Flymen, Artisans (White Dwarf #23)
  • Flymen, Drones (White Dwarf #23)
  • Flymen, Flyguard (White Dwarf #23)
  • Flymen, Flymage (White Dwarf #23)
  • Flymen, Warriors (White Dwarf #23)
  • Forest Giant, Eschel (White Dwarf #26)
  • Forest Giant, Rancorous (White Dwarf #26)
  • Forest Giant, Sentinel (White Dwarf #26)
  • Forest-Brethren (White Dwarf #57)
  • Frog Folk (White Dwarf #20)
  • Frost Vampire (White Dwarf #57)
  • Gachragar (White Dwarf #66)
  • Gazer (White Dwarf #14)
  • Ghayrog (White Dwarf #57)
  • Ghralthi (White Dwarf #37)
  • Giant Moth (White Dwarf #49)
  • Giant Praying Mantis, Venomous (White Dwarf #49)
  • Giant Sandcrab (White Dwarf #29)
  • Giant Wood Ant (White Dwarf #34)
  • Gluey (White Dwarf #7)
  • Glitch (White Dwarf #4)
  • Goldeater (White Dwarf #5)
  • Golden Beetle (White Dwarf #49)
  • Goldfinger (White Dwarf #34)
  • Green Gremlin (White Dwarf #18)
  • Green Salamander (White Dwarf #66)
  • Gremkin, Black (White Dwarf #53)
  • Gremkin, Green (White Dwarf #53)
  • Gremkin, Red (White Dwarf #53)
  • Gremlin (White Dwarf #48)
  • Gremlins (White Dwarf #39)
  • Grey Dominator (White Dwarf #52)
  • Grey Sqaargs (White Dwarf #21)
  • Grimp (White Dwarf #33)
  • Gromit (White Dwarf #47)
  • Guardian (White Dwarf #25)
  • Guardian Skeleton (White Dwarf #24)
  • Guardians of the City (White Dwarf #50)
  • Gwillion (White Dwarf #63)
  • Gwyllion (White Dwarf #38)
  • Heat Monster (White Dwarf #15)
  • Helgost (White Dwarf #60)
  • Hjort (White Dwarf #57)
  • Hound of Kerenos (White Dwarf #18)
  • Howlers (White Dwarf #51)
  • Ibem (White Dwarf #4)
  • Ice Maiden (White Dwarf #14)
  • Igni Beetle (White Dwarf #61)
  • Inverse Monster (White Dwarf #10)
  • Iron Demon (White Dwarf #5)
  • Iron Pig (White Dwarf #12)
  • Ivyix (White Dwarf #46)
  • Javukchari (White Dwarf #37)
  • Jugger (White Dwarf #6)
  • Kail (White Dwarf #29)
  • Krowks (White Dwarf #47)
  • Kulamtu Tree (White Dwarf #75)
  • Kzin (White Dwarf #5)
  • Lapidan (White Dwarf #11)
  • Lashbriar (White Dwarf #66)
  • Lauren (White Dwarf #11)
  • Leanan-Sidhe (White Dwarf #31)
  • Leechweed (White Dwarf #75)
  • Lich-King (White Dwarf #43)
  • Living Wall (White Dwarf #7)
  • Llort (White Dwarf #24)
  • Loculi (White Dwarf #36)
  • Magmite (White Dwarf #56)
  • Mandrake Person (White Dwarf #18)
  • Manta (White Dwarf #5)
  • Mara (White Dwarf #32)
  • Marsh-Wiggle (White Dwarf #52)
  • Melodemon (White Dwarf #20)
  • Metamorph (White Dwarf #57)
  • Miceman (White Dwarf #21)
  • Mimble (White Dwarf #10)
  • Mind Drain (White Dwarf #4)
  • Mind Shadow (White Dwarf #56)
  • Mindweb (White Dwarf #14)
  • Minidrag (White Dwarf #30)
  • Mobil Diss (White Dwarf #5)
  • Morbe (or Semi-Dead) (White Dwarf #34)
  • Nasnas (White Dwarf #9)
  • Nazgul (White Dwarf #32)
  • Nightling (White Dwarf #32)
  • Noegyth Nibin (Petty Dwarfs) (White Dwarf #65)
  • Nyim O Caber (White Dwarf #62)
  • Ogress (White Dwarf #16)
  • Oozing Jelly (White Dwarf #75)
  • Pebble Gnome (White Dwarf #15)
  • Pelgranes (White Dwarf #58)
  • Phooka (White Dwarf #38)
  • Phung (White Dwarf #18)
  • Plentyn Nos (White Dwarf #53)
  • Porphyr (White Dwarf #48)
  • Psi-mule (White Dwarf #33)
  • Psitan (White Dwarf #33)
  • Psychic Vampire (White Dwarf #71)
  • Puffball Plant (White Dwarf #46)
  • Qothe (White Dwarf #32)
  • Quetzl (White Dwarf #73)
  • Raver (White Dwarf #16)
  • Reaver (White Dwarf #59)
  • Redcap (White Dwarf #38)
  • Rock Beast (White Dwarf #8)
  • Rok-or (White Dwarf #56)
  • Rover (White Dwarf #7)
  • Rult (White Dwarf #48)
  • Russian Doll Monster (White Dwarf #15)
  • Sand Demon (White Dwarf #45)
  • Sand Sniper (White Dwarf #64)
  • Sea Dragon (White Dwarf #57)
  • Servants of the Flame (White Dwarf #45)
  • Shapeling (White Dwarf #54)
  • Shim-Shari (White Dwarf #29)
  • Silent Hater (White Dwarf #66)
  • Skandar (White Dwarf #57)
  • Skullcatcher (White Dwarf #49)
  • Slime Beast (White Dwarf #20)
  • Smoke Creature (White Dwarf #4)
  • Smoke Demon (White Dwarf #4)
  • Snaga, Male (White Dwarf #53)
  • Sodger O Caber (White Dwarf #62)
  • Soldier Orc, Male (White Dwarf #53)
  • Sphex (White Dwarf #5)
  • Spice Worm (White Dwarf #17)
  • Spider Dragon (White Dwarf #52)
  • Spinescale (Best of White Dwarf Scenarios)
  • Spook (White Dwarf #11)
  • Sprite Knight (White Dwarf #30)
  • Squonk (White Dwarf #7)
  • Stagweed (White Dwarf #75)
  • Stair Stalker (White Dwarf #9)
  • Stalker (White Dwarf #48)
  • Stinwicodech (White Dwarf #8)
  • Stirge Demon (White Dwarf #30)
  • Stong Toad (White Dwarf #66)
  • Storm Demon (White Dwarf #48)
  • Stormbiter (White Dwarf #19)
  • Surrogate (White Dwarf #54)
  • Swamp Lurker (White Dwarf #66)
  • Tacharanid (White Dwarf #15)
  • Tali Monster (White Dwarf #24)
  • Tanu (White Dwarf #51)
  • Three-Headed Skrat (White Dwarf #12)
  • Threep (White Dwarf #5)
  • Time Freezer (White Dwarf #15)
  • Todal (White Dwarf #24)
  • Tribe of the Stone (White Dwarf #11)
  • Trist (White Dwarf #47)
  • Trollkin (White Dwarf #47)
  • Trolls (White Dwarf #82)
  • Tunnel Crawler (White Dwarf #60)
  • Turlung (White Dwarf #8)
  • Typo (White Dwarf #4)
  • Unborn (or Manifestations of Evil) (White Dwarf #34)
  • Uruks, Male (White Dwarf #53)
  • Ur-Vile (White Dwarf #16)
  • Vampire Wolf (Coacula) (White Dwarf #30)
  • Vanith-Vadiren (White Dwarf #43)
  • Vily (White Dwarf #46)
  • Vroon (White Dwarf #57)
  • Warlock Cat (White Dwarf #10)
  • Water Leaper (White Dwarf #20)
  • Weed-Delvers (White Dwarf #37)
  • Weed-Delvers, Octarni (White Dwarf #37)
  • Weed-Delvers, Ryll (White Dwarf #37)
  • Weresnake (White Dwarf #30)
  • Whipper (White Dwarf #9)
  • Whippersnapper (White Dwarf #52)
  • Whirler (White Dwarf #8)
  • Whispering Tongues (White Dwarf #28)
  • Winged Beast (White Dwarf #32)
  • Wirrn (White Dwarf #27)
  • Withera (White Dwarf #7)
  • Wodennian (White Dwarf #44)
  • Wohk (White Dwarf #44)
  • Wood Skeleton (White Dwarf #53)
  • Wood-Demons (White Dwarf #49)
  • Woods Vampire (White Dwarf #61)
  • Wraith-Warrior (White Dwarf #34)
  • Wrecker (White Dwarf #16)
  • Wyrmlet (White Dwarf #32)
  • Yelgs (White Dwarf #44)
  • Zirosownee (Two-Headed Eagle) (White Dwarf #63)
  • Zwergind (White Dwarf #53)
 
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BOZ

Creature Cataloguer
BTW, i have to ask - in terms of converting these monsters and posting them to the internet, who owns the copyright? and do they care if such material is reused, or would they have a problem with copyvio?
 

Echohawk

Shirokinukatsukami fan
I presume that Games Workshop owns the copyright for material from White Dwarf, other than perhaps the creatures that later appeared in the Fiend Folio. But I have no idea if they would have a problem with reuse of the material.
 


Garnfellow

Explorer
BOZ said:
BTW, i have to ask - in terms of converting these monsters and posting them to the internet, who owns the copyright? and do they care if such material is reused, or would they have a problem with copyvio?

Games Workshop is listed as the copyright holder for most (all?) of the issues I have, but I think the legal disposition is a bit more complicated than that and possibly a serious muddle.

WD started as a fanzine, was for a time associated with TSR in a special relationship, and then published as an unaffiliated magazine.

During the entire period in which WD published D&D material (nearly its first 100 issues) it made extremely liberal use of TSR's intellectual property, and I assume most of the time this material was published under the principle of "fair use." (This was all long before the nasty lawsuits of the 80s which really made publishers afraid to test the limits of fair use, and before we had clear distinctions between open and closed content.) Maybe during the time WD and GW had a special relationship with TSR they had special legal permission to use TSR's IP, but I suspect it was probably just a handshake agreement.

So while GW might ostensibly have copyright over the D&D material published in its pages, because so much of that material uses TSR's intellectual property, I'm not sure that in the current climate GW would consider that it controls this material free and clear.

In addition to this, I'm not sure the early contracts between authors and GW were clear on copyright and control of intellectual property, just as there was some confusion over early Dragon content. Somewhere there's an article on the original Fiend Folio, which was published something like a year late. The article I'm thinking of blamed the delay on the extensive legal wrangling over rights to monsters that had been published in WD. I've only been able to track down one WD author, and he seemed to think he still had some rights over his creation.

So, where does this leave us? I think WD monsters that subsequently appeared in the Fiend Folio are the intellectual property of WotC. (Unless they were "opened" in the Tome of Horrors, of course). I think all other D&D monsters are probably copyrighted by GW, but because of their reliance on WotC's (and other people's) IP, GW is probably unable or at least unlikely to do anything with this material. It's sort of like "abandonware": cool material that stuck in legal limbo.

I think if someone tried to adhere to fair use principles for a non-commercial project, cites sources, and doesn't just copy stuff willy-nilly, they should be fine. I certainly haven't heard anything about the conversions I've done.
 

Echohawk

Shirokinukatsukami fan
Great analysis Garnfellow; abandonware is a good analogy. Complicating matters even further is the fact that a lot of the WD creatures are based directly on novels, movies and settings for which neither TSR nor Games Workshop owns the IP.
 


Garnfellow

Explorer
Echohawk said:
And the gu'en-deeko, cool. Is the nighttide dancer a conversion of the shadow dancer, perhaps?

Yeah, nighttide dancer = shadow dancer. I altered the name only to avoid confusion with the prestige class.
 

BOZ

Creature Cataloguer
well, here's what i say about the "disputable" monsters from WD. we can convert them, and post them on the CC, but let's keep tabs on them. if we ever hear that GW or whoever really owns them is making a stink about people posting their IP online, we pull them immediately.

in the 6-7 years or so that the CC has been around, i've never heard a bad word from anyone at WotC regarding their stuff - in fact, i've seen links to the CC on their forums many times. so, what can i say, i assume there is no problem and until i hear otherwise we'll continue to assume that they don't care.

as far as the WD stuff, due to its tenuous link to early official AD&D, i'll say it's OK to add those critters, but i don't want that to be seen as an "opening of the floodgates" to start converting a bunch of other old 3rd party stuff. let's keep it at WD for now; we've got how many "official" creatures owned by Wizards' left to convert before we run out? ;)
 


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