New Dukes of Hell article

catsclaw227 · Oct 18, 2007

Online Dragon magazine has listed a new Dukes of Hell article.

Interestingly, it states:

After flipping through the pages of this article, you’re probably noticing the dukes described here are as powerful or more powerful than the archdevils presented in the Fiendish Codex II. This is intentional. The archdukes in the Fiendish Codex II are aspects, manifestations having but a fragment of the archdevil’s power. The dukes described here are the real deal. They lack the ability to create aspects and thus when encountered, they are nearly always in their true form.

I am guessing that they learned something from all the complaints about the aspects of Devils in the FCII not being powerful enough and just said, "OK fine, here you go. Full devil critters."

Personally I wasn't taken aback about the aspects not being uber powerful, because my games rarely get over Level 17 or so, and the players want to feel like they are legendary heroes that can take on demons and devils. The aspects fit this role perfectly.

I think I will reread the article with more detail and see what other nuggets I can find.

Nifft · Oct 18, 2007

Dukes of Baator

Just th' ex-good boys,
Locked deep in the Hells,
Beats all you've ever heard, been in trouble with the Lord since the day they rebelled.

Stealin' the souls,
Markin' your kill.
Someday the Law might get 'em, but th' Gods never will.

Makin' their pacts,
The only way they know how,
That's just a little bit more than the Gods will allow.

Just th' ex-good boys,
Wouldn't bow to th' Man,
Fightin' the system like a true modern day Caliban.

- - -

Y'all come back now, y'hear? -- N

Kid Charlemagne · Oct 18, 2007

I prefer the full-devil critters. Aspects never really worked for me in any version of the game.

Nikosandros · Oct 18, 2007

It looks like they are no longer providing a downloadable PDF for the single articles.

gizmo33 · Oct 18, 2007

Nifft said:
Y'all come back now, y'hear?

This is what I thought when I saw this thread title too. Bravo Nifft, the balladeer would be proud.

A2Z · Oct 18, 2007

Does your message board ID no longer let you see the articles? I can't access it anymore.

Davelozzi · Oct 18, 2007

A2Z said:
Does your message board ID no longer let you see the articles? I can't access it anymore.

Mine still works.

Shroomy · Oct 18, 2007

When you sign into the DI, you need to use your email address instead of your messageboard alias. I didn't catch on to it until I tried to log in several times.

Ryltar · Oct 18, 2007

Nikosandros said:
It looks like they are no longer providing a downloadable PDF for the single articles.

A simple remedy: Using a pdf generator (Adobe Acrobat or one of those available for free, FreePDF XP for example), simply choose the Print view and then output to PDF.

Normally, this would be substandard, but since WotC apparently cannot be bothered to properly format their new Dragon articles, you won't see a difference.

catsclaw227 · Oct 18, 2007

Ryltar said:
Normally, this would be substandard, but since WotC apparently cannot be bothered to properly format their new Dragon articles, you won't see a difference.

I recall someone at WOTC saying that all the articles are going to be compiled into a single formatted download at the end of the month. Like a PDF magazine.