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Wednesday, 19th December, 2007, 09:00 PM #71
Minor Trickster (Lvl 4)
Originally Posted by Scott_Rouse
We are playtesting the heck out of this game and have been doing so in earnest for the better part of two years. I find it funny, bordering on the ridiculous, that from one playtest report that people assume we have our heads in our butts and don't know how to develop and playtest a game. We have hundreds of years of combined game development experience on the 4e team with some people like Bill Slavicsek and Kim Mohan having experience going back over multiple editions. So instead of being a jerk in responding to criticism I decided to inject some humor (albeit sarcastic) into the thread.
I note further that you have explicitly not made, and appear to be deliberately not making, such a statement.
In fact, the blog post is the *only* hint that any form of stress testing has been done. It fairly explicitly suggests that the "aggressive playtest" is the only such playtest occurring. Such playtesting is so basic that I would not have worried had the blog not been posted. I wouldn't be as worried as I am had you not proceeded to respond to concerns with irrelevant (albeit amusing) humor.
So, what *is* the answer to: "how much more stress testing has occurred than is implied in WotC_PeterS's blog post"?
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Wednesday, 19th December, 2007, 09:02 PM #72
Gallant (Lvl 3)
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Wednesday, 19th December, 2007, 09:03 PM #73
Grandfather of Assassins (Lvl 19)
I had no idea this thread would be so lively....
Kraydak: that was just one staffers blog, but there have been many other refs. to playtesting since the gencon anouncement, including "non-campaing" play testing.
Le Rouse: encore merci!
Wednesday, 19th December, 2007, 09:04 PM #74
Acolyte (Lvl 2)
Lighten up, Francis.
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Wednesday, 19th December, 2007, 09:17 PM #75
Thank you for the greater detail and for the fact that you are still willing to hang around here. It's very nice to know a WotC staffer is actually reading what is here.
P.S. I also enjoyed The Funny. Please bring more of it.
Wednesday, 19th December, 2007, 09:29 PM #76
Originally Posted by KraydakI thought the answer was pretty clear. Seriously, I'm not being flippant. If you don't trust WotC to do their job, there is no acceptable, quantifiable reply that won't get someone in a tizzy. If you do trust them to do there job, then in their professional estimation there are enough playtests happening.Originally Posted by Scott
Last edited by Slander; Wednesday, 19th December, 2007 at 09:50 PM.
Wednesday, 19th December, 2007, 09:30 PM #77
Wednesday, 19th December, 2007, 09:31 PM #78
Cutpurse (Lvl 5)
Why on earth do you think he owes you an answer? You do realize this is a game we're talking about? You stress test bridges, computer programs, buildings - you know important stuff. This is a game. Nobody dies if it breaks. Calm down.Originally Posted by Kraydak
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Wednesday, 19th December, 2007, 09:40 PM #79
Cutpurse (Lvl 5)
You try telling that to Black Leaf !!Originally Posted by mhensley
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Wednesday, 19th December, 2007, 09:56 PM #80
Novice (Lvl 1)
Another thanks to Scott Rouse for his willingness to drop by and just hang out in a thread. Very cool.
I couldn't imagine having the time OR the inclination to hang out in a forum about my company's products.
Also: the negative nellys and the doomcriers really need to lighten up and put things into perspective. It's only a game. This is not Medical equipment. This is not an aerospace product. Lives ARE NOT at stake here. There's no need for ISO9000 levels of detail. Yes, you deserve the best possible product, but you're only paying, what... $40 per book? Compare that to the half-mil (or whatever) for a piece of moderate medical equipment? Give you head a shake.