Making your own power cards

Grandpa · Aug 25, 2008

Drabix said:
Grandpa -
Have you considered adding a card that has the turn sequence?

Yeah... In fact, I have one in a personal graveyard (that only covers the start and end, since the middle is pretty well-known). Anyway, I'm considering going back to the cards and just including everything in the PHB (I find Hira's description of play at the table similar to mine, where the cards shortcut the books and act as surprisingly preferable reference), but it might be a little bit before I get to it. If you're desperate for just that one card, I could produce something before another larger update.

Grandpa · Aug 25, 2008

So Hirahito,

I consider you the most active and stalwart updater of all things cards, and since neither you or I have control of the original post upon which this entire thread is built, and since a lot of people -- understandably hesitant to sift through 34 pages of talkback and updates -- are missing out on some good efforts, I was wondering if you would be interested in creating a new power cards thread with an intro page that references different efforts, to which we can migrate our work and fix our links to reference. I feel you, the most active contributer, are the best choice for updating the community on various efforts, which I presume would center around you regardless. Another way to do this is by wiki, but it doesn't have the same traffic, and links could be provided to bolster that effort anyway.

Thoughts?

PS - I noticed your offer to integrate another user's style into your templates, and I wanted to offer the style I used for MSE, on the off-chance you never made the suggestion fearing it would mess with my mojo (it doesn't). No expectations, just mentioned on the off-chance...

eloquentaction · Aug 25, 2008

Grandpa said:
So Hirahito,

I consider you the most active and stalwart updater of all things cards, and since neither you or I have control of the original post upon which this entire thread is built, and since a lot of people -- understandably hesitant to sift through 34 pages of talkback and updates -- are missing out on some good efforts, I was wondering if you would be interested in creating a new power cards thread with an intro page that references different efforts, to which we can migrate our work and fix our links to reference. I feel you, the most active contributer, are the best choice for updating the community on various efforts, which I presume would center around you regardless. Another way to do this is by wiki, but it doesn't have the same traffic, and links could be provided to bolster that effort anyway.

Thoughts?

PS - I noticed your offer to integrate another user's style into your templates, and I wanted to offer the style I used for MSE, on the off-chance you never made the suggestion fearing it would mess with my mojo (it doesn't). No expectations, just mentioned on the off-chance...

Grandpa -

I think you underestimate your own place in this and WAY overestimate mine. I think the breakdown of card users is: Ander's, yours, Mercutio's / Plauge's, then (maybe) mine with a lot of notable runner's up vying for my position.

I think you're seeing a lot of activity on this thread FROM me only because this is where I usually update.

BUT - I think the starting of a new thread entitled 'All things Power Cards' would be a good idea. Put the first post as a series of links to everyone's pages and / or ENWorld posts where they can download, then have a post for each contributor giving their latest updates and/or notes.

BUT - I think you're going to see the same problem(s) arise - that thread will soon become 343,927 pages long as this one has...

What does everyone else think? Should us card builders spawn off into a new thread?

AND, last but not least, I would be more than honored to incorporate your MSE style into my set. Look to my link below to hit my web page which has my e-mail address.

Actually - I would be really interested in bartering for your services in creating icons. Your icons are typically much cleaner that what I can come up with off the cuff.

-- Hirahito

Alphastream · Aug 25, 2008

eloquentaction said:
I just released version 4 of my MSE-SET cards.

Hirahito, these are great! I'm really impressed by the breadth of what you offered and the options. The condition cards are great.

One question - I got all excited about Trip, then realized it is an EN World idea, not actual PH material. Is there a list of what is 4E official vs. unofficial? I want to make sure I have all the conditions/options as valid for LFR.

Feedback-wise, I am still not feeling the draw towards any of the magic item cards. I think I just really am locked into seeing images on the card itself. Maybe I'm too visual a person. I find the colored strips to be so-so for my tastes and would really just like to see an awesome sword/shield/etc. in addition to the item text. Same for the items you made (though i don't think i would personally use the non-magic cards).

Thanks,

Teos

Alphastream · Aug 25, 2008

eloquentaction said:
What does everyone else think? Should us card builders spawn off into a new thread?

I think keeping things here is fine.

It seemed daunting way back when I found this thread to go through the many posts and find good styles, but it paid off in the Lord Tirian design I use for magic items. Having all the old posts enables us to go back if we want to do so.

At the same time, what would be great is for the more active users and builders to keep the Wiki up to date, perhaps announcing the latest file date and sharing tips for other builders. The wiki is threadless, so that self-regulates its length somewhat.

Teos

eloquentaction · Aug 25, 2008

Alphastream said:
Hirahito, these are great! I'm really impressed by the breadth of what you offered and the options. The condition cards are great.

One question - I got all excited about Trip, then realized it is an EN World idea, not actual PH material. Is there a list of what is 4E official vs. unofficial? I want to make sure I have all the conditions/options as valid for LFR.

Feedback-wise, I am still not feeling the draw towards any of the magic item cards. I think I just really am locked into seeing images on the card itself. Maybe I'm too visual a person. I find the colored strips to be so-so for my tastes and would really just like to see an awesome sword/shield/etc. in addition to the item text. Same for the items you made (though i don't think i would personally use the non-magic cards).

Thanks,

Teos

Teos -

All of my optional cards should have an OPTIONAL keyword in the Flags field.

Trip was my (bad) attempt to bring Trip back into the game (you should see a Disarm Basic Action card as well).

As far as putting images onto the actual cards - there are two main reasons I didn't:

1) Bandwidth - that's a LOT of images, man! People downloading all those images would be suffering greatly.
2) Time - finding and cropping / editing all those images would have taken a LONG time. I wanted to get version 4 out the door.

BUT - I think it's an excellent option for my next version. I will look into making the image file an optional parameter where MSE will ignore it if it can't find the file; and then make the images a separate downloadable file you can download (or not) at your own whim.

I apologize for the confusion on the new skills.

-- Hirahito

eloquentaction · Aug 25, 2008

Alphastream said:
I think keeping things here is fine.

It seemed daunting way back when I found this thread to go through the many posts and find good styles, but it paid off in the Lord Tirian design I use for magic items. Having all the old posts enables us to go back if we want to do so.

At the same time, what would be great is for the more active users and builders to keep the Wiki up to date, perhaps announcing the latest file date and sharing tips for other builders. The wiki is threadless, so that self-regulates its length somewhat.

Teos

I have a confession to make.

"Hi, I'm Hirahito, and I'm terrible with Wiki's."

"Hi Hirahito."

I. Just. Can't. Do. It.

They scare me a little bit.

*blinks back the tears...*

-- Hirahito

grickherder · Aug 26, 2008

I think this thread is fine, but a new one with a good first post with lots of good links would be nice too.

Grandpa-- I noticed sunrods (1216) don't have a number in their price on the card in the PDF. Not really worthy of an update/reupload on it's on, but something to add to the list for when you do another update.

Grandpa · Aug 26, 2008

eloquentaction said:
I think you underestimate your own place in this and WAY overestimate mine. I think the breakdown of card users is: Ander's, yours, Mercutio's / Plauge's, then (maybe) mine with a lot of notable runner's up vying for my position.

Hard to believe!

eloquentaction said:
BUT - I think the starting of a new thread entitled 'All things Power Cards' would be a good idea. Put the first post as a series of links to everyone's pages and / or ENWorld posts where they can download, then have a post for each contributor giving their latest updates and/or notes.

The biggest reason for splitting is for control of Page 1. I'm indifferent about keeping the action here but hate that no control of the original post gives us no way to make the community's amazing work accessible via the forums. Perhaps a sticky? Perhaps someone reads this message and has a post on the first page who can help?

eloquentaction said:
BUT - I think you're going to see the same problem(s) arise - that thread will soon become 343,927 pages long as this one has...

The size of the thread doesn't matter to me, just page 1 access to organize our efforts.

eloquentaction said:
Actually - I would be really interested in bartering for your services in creating icons. Your icons are typically much cleaner that what I can come up with off the cuff.

I've been moving on to new projects but I might be able to help. Let me know what you have in mind: enworld beeba net

Grandpa · Aug 26, 2008

grickherder said:
Grandpa-- I noticed sunrods (1216) don't have a number in their price on the card in the PDF. Not really worthy of an update/reupload on it's on, but something to add to the list for when you do another update.

Thanks for the heads up. I'll fix it shortly.