TSR Q&A with Gary Gygax

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This is the multi-year Q&A sessions held by D&D co-creator Gary Gygax here at EN World, beginning in 2002 and running up until his sad pasing in 2008. Gary's username in the thread below is Col_Pladoh, and his first post in this long thread is Post #39.

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Elfdart

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Col_Pladoh said:
Indeed.

Also I believe it was MArgaret St. Claire who wrote The Secret People in which elves were very much like humans.

Of course, the early English folklore had elves akin to small humans, likely based on the Picts, and called stone arrowheads they found "elf bolts".

Cheers,
Gary

My nickname on the web boards comes from the old English term for back spasms (which I suffered several years ago) being labeled "elf darts" because the ancient Germanic peoples thought sudden pains and spasms were caused by invisible darts from the elves. On the other hand, Tolkien nerds are more of a pain in the a$$.
 

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Elfdart

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Gray Mouser said:
Don't you realize that Tolkien was your main inspiration for the whole of D&D, Gary? Why continue to bring up the thousands of other stories and hundreds of other authors you had read before making the game and admit the truth that one author, whose major work you didn't particularly care for, is really responsible for every aspect of the game?

I kid! I joke!

Actually, I read the thread over at wizards and have but one thing to say: a lot of those people are maroons.



Similar to humans? Obviously they didn't realize that they were really being influenced by Tolkien!

I kid!

;)

Actually, the possibility of basing elves from folklore on the Picts is kind of cool!

Gray Mouser

Supposedly, that's what the Pechs are, as well as the Brownies.
 

Treebore

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Col_Pladoh said:
Greetings and welcome :)


Try www.dragonsfoot.com for a group playing OD&D.


Well...

This is not touchy but rather cabbage that's been chewed more than once. Still, I'll comment here. If you wish, refer readers of the thread in question to this one.

I did indeed use names that Tolkien used in his LotR books in order to attract potential players to the D&D game. When it was being written, was published, early in the 70s the Rings Triology was surely the best known fantasy work around. That said, compare the elves of the D&D game with those that JRRT extoled. Quite a difference between the two, eh?

From where did I get my take on elves? Mainly from fairy tales such as the one in which the 12 princesses went through a secret door into Elfland every night, dancd with elven princes so as to have holes in their slippers. Also, the folklore about etering the world of elves through a secret way under a stone that depicts elves as human-like in many respects. Much authored fantasy also treats elves in like manner, including their being soul-les.

I read literally thousands of SF, fantasy, folklore, and mythology books beginning in 1950. I can not recall exact references after so many years have passed, but I can assure all that Tolkien was not the first autor to consider elves as something other than tiny little fairy folk. In point of fact, fairies in fairy tales, and the French Lutin fair folk, are usually more like JRRT's version of elves than any other sort of folklore "race" other than perhaps the Norse lysoalfar, the "light elves." Of course, as Tolkien borrowed much from Norse mythology, it is likely that both his dwarves and elves came from there. I know my dwarves surely did.

Cheers,
Gary

You are a cool guy indeed! Ignore the ignorance and only repsond to what little was of any interesting merit. I hope I meet you in person some day.

Is there a chance you'll be going to the Troll Con they are putting together down in OK. in March/April of next year? Or this GenCon? I'll be at both.

I also finally got my Troll shipment Monday (1 full week after my B-day). I was immediately hooked by the Castle Zagyg book. Excellent stuff. You are still the best, IMO. I haven't read LA:Essentials or Hall of Many Panes yet, still reading Castle Zagyg! I also bought World Builder. Haven't read that yet either, but my daughter has started to. If Castle Zagyg is any thing to go by I have a lot of very enjoyable reading ahead of me.

I hope you have a couple of decades of more creativity ahead of you. Take care.
 


Gray Mouser

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Col_Pladoh said:
Well...

I did enjoy The Hobbit, and I was awfully fond of the Tom Bombadil character. The rest was just too slow and dull for my taste. I somehow never could really relate to the mental agonies of a furry-footed midget and his similar companions. At least when Elric becomes deptessive there is soon some action to make the reader forget the boring passage preceeding it :lol:

There's nothing like a good slaughter to liven things up; and to get rid of that pesky angst!


As I envisage them, the Wild Elves are more or less just that.

Cheerio,
Gary

The Grugach based on the Picts? That's pretty interesting and yet another reason why I hate that you lost control of A/D&D. What I'd give to see what could have been published!

Gray Mouser
 

Brooklyn Red Leg

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Priest_of_Boccob said:
I have played every edition of DnD, except for 1st edition, cause unfortunatly I can't find anyone to play 1st edition with.

Might I suggest the Knights & Knaves Alehouse board....

Elfdart said:
On the other hand, Tolkien nerds are more of a pain in the a$$.

Bah, no more so than any other group of nerds, say like Star Trek, Star Wars, Macross (well, almost all anime fans now) and any other number of situations that have spawned fan followings.
 


Col_Pladoh said:
The Kerouac Fest was held for three years running in Windbur, PA, at the Grand Midway Hotel, this year being the last. Sadly I was unable to attend any of the events, so I don't know who else got what. All I can say is that one day last month a package arrived here with a marble reectabgle upon which was affixed a metal plaque engraved with my name, the award, and the awarding entity.

Ack! It might be an evil artifact, showing up like that unannounced. If it came wrapped in plain brown paper, it's definitely some sort of McGuffin! :eek:

Metagame thinking about real life amuses me sometimes. I'm weird. ;)
 

riprock

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Col_Pladoh said:
Anyone that claims playing a "Let's Pretend" game formalized by rules, no matter what it is called, is an art form is deluded, or else attempting to delude theaudience.

Cheers,
Gary

As a long-time player, having started around 1980 or 1981, I credit the "make-believe" for leading me toward mathematical simulations.

Mathematical simulations of complex systems (such as factories, warehouses, armies) are a very different kettle of fish than "Let's Pretend," but I would never have found them if I hadn't started with a red box (of BD&D) and the hardbacks of AD&D.

Something that is a little closer to "Let's Pretend" would be training exercises -- such as when I tell a low-level employee with no supervisory role to pretend he is a manager and his classmate is the director of technology. They're doing a kind of "Let's Pretend" -- but it's not really what I would call "play." It's more like "training" than "entertainment," although often it slips into "infotainment" and "edutainment."

Colonel, your responses generally focus on entertainment, imaginative fun, and so on. Do you have any advice for folks using make-believe for business simulations, military training, etc.?
 

vaguy010

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Hi Gary,

I know this Q&A is over with, I did not know about it until now.

I do not have a question just a comment.

I am glad you did what you did, you are one of my heros # 2 on my list my dad is first sorry!

Anyways just thought I would say hi and I will try to come up with some good questions for you the next time you do a Q&A.
 

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