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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Mouser
    Kudos to him, then, as I greatly enjoyed the series on the Suel pantheon. I did find some of them to be a bit on the good side considering the description of the Suel old-timers in thne WoGH, but they are an interesting group, all in all. While Olidammara is one of my favorites Norebo certainly ranks up there, as well

    Now, if I recall correctly, the Suel pantheon series came out after the release of the Greyhawk boxed set. I think you'd mentioned before that you had hoped to detail more of Oerth so I was wondering if there were there plans to revise the box set with the inclusion of these deities, or did you simply think they would make for an interesting series of articles in Dragon?

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    As it happens Olidammara is a creation of my own that Len added to his pantheon.

    It is likely a revised and expanded boxed set for the WoG would have gone into the hopper had I remained in charge of the company after 1984.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagora

    Getting back to Gary:

    Gary,
    I'm thinking about running an AD&D game for a pair of bright not-quite-12-year-olds (twins). Did you or TSR ever think about releasing scenarios/modules aimed specifically at pre-teens? Do you think it's something that would be useful? Is there any advice you would have? I know you've run a few games for young players.
    It was never contemplated to offer any lower level of module especially for younger players. As the core rules are not written for children, offering special modules for them would be rather pointless.

    The adventures for novice PCs were meant to supply the DM with material for a younger player audience. Otherwise the able DM is capable of modifying or creating special adventures for very young players.

    I believe the above answers all of questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col_Pladoh


    As it happens Olidammara is a creation of my own that Len added to his pantheon.
    Heh, well I actually was referring to Olidammara as one of my favorite gods in the WoGH boxed set. Norebo seems like a kindred deity from the Suel mythos as he is the god of Luck, Gambling and Risk while Olidammara is the god of Music, Revelry, Rougery and Wine (he getting two of life's three necessities: wine, women and song ). Both are also the patron of mant thieves. I didn't mean to imply that both were written up in Len's Suel pantheon articles, just Norebo. Sorry for any confusion being caused on my part!

    It is likely a revised and expanded boxed set for the WoG would have gone into the hopper had I remained in charge of the company after 1984.

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    Of course.

    Well, in order not to be uncharitable let me just say that at least Castle Zagyg seems to be progressing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Mouser

    Well, in order not to be uncharitable let me just say that at least Castle Zagyg seems to be progressing

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    Thankee!

    In order to get to the castle and ruins I thought it best to establish a detailed environment and good-sized community for the setting. Thus Castle Zagyg Yggsburgh and the East Mark. Of course, detailing the big walled town by dividing it into quarters or districts, mappomg each and showing the buildings with encounter key numbers and text, giving a bit of color for the sector to assist the GM--and doing the same for the suburban communities--then seemed beneficial in order to give a really detailed urban area. To the best of my knowledge that has not been done previously.

    So as those 24 modules were in progress the similar detailing of the actual abandoned castle ruins and its subterranean levels went into high gear, basing the work on my previous castle ruins and dungeons developed and revised as my campaign matured...and PCs wreaked havoc in these places

    Detailing the latter is a project that requires a good deal of time, but this part of the whole project is also proceeding at a good pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Mouser
    Halfling NPC's could also be Druids.

    You could say, however, that part of the reason these particular races (Elves and Halflings) entered Oerth (or whatever campaign world you were using) was their affinity for nature which may have been the same as that on their home plane.

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    I've long considered halflings to be short humans (Englishmen!) with big, hairy feet. I'd consider them to be natives of the campaign world.

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    I've long considered halflings to be short humans (Englishmen!) with big, hairy feet. I'd consider them to be natives of the campaign world.
    Heh, I've had similar thoughts and have run campaigns where this was, in fact, the case. But it seemed from his previous answers that Gary considers all demihumans to be from a different plane.

    Does anyone recall if JRRT considered Hobbits small humans? I know I've read stuff on that topic before but, for the life of me, I cannot recall the answer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Mouser
    Heh, I've had similar thoughts and have run campaigns where this was, in fact, the case. But it seemed from his previous answers that Gary considers all demihumans to be from a different plane.

    Does anyone recall if JRRT considered Hobbits small humans? I know I've read stuff on that topic before but, for the life of me, I cannot recall the answer!

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    He specifically did not think of them that way and said that the advance of humans pushed the hobbits further and further into the margins until they became the legends of the "little people". They were not "absorbed" as it were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Mouser
    Does anyone recall if JRRT considered Hobbits small humans? I know I've read stuff on that topic before but, for the life of me, I cannot recall the answer!
    In late 1951 J. R. R. Tolkien wrote a long letter to Milton Waldman (letter #131 in The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien--see second footnote on page 158 for the following quote) in which Tolkien wrote: "The Hobbits are, of course, really meant to be a branch of the specifically human race (not Elves or Dwarves)--hence the two kinds can dwell together (as at Bree), and are called just the Big Folk and Little Folk. They are entirely without non-human powers, but are represented as being more in touch with 'nature' (the soil and other living things, plants and animals), and abnormally, for humans, free from ambition or greed of wealth." [emphasis in original]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Col_Pladoh
    Of course, detailing the big walled town by dividing it into quarters or districts, mappomg each and showing the buildings with encounter key numbers and text, giving a bit of color for the sector to assist the GM--and doing the same for the suburban communities--then seemed beneficial in order to give a really detailed urban area.
    Gary,

    When you are preparing a town for your own refereeing (as opposed to preparing one for publication), how do you organize your notes? I've seen a number of techniques, including detailing individual buildings, detailing sections or neighborhoods of the town as if they were dungeon rooms, and just creating encounters to throw in as the referee decides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffrey
    In late 1951 J. R. R. Tolkien wrote a long letter to Milton Waldman (letter #131 in The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien--see second footnote on page 158 for the following quote) in which Tolkien wrote: "The Hobbits are, of course, really meant to be a branch of the specifically human race (not Elves or Dwarves)--hence the two kinds can dwell together (as at Bree), and are called just the Big Folk and Little Folk. They are entirely without non-human powers, but are represented as being more in touch with 'nature' (the soil and other living things, plants and animals), and abnormally, for humans, free from ambition or greed of wealth." [emphasis in original]
    Hmmm. Well, I'm pretty sure that JRRT never intended the reader to think of hobbits and humans interbreeding, so to that extent they're not the same race anymore, even if they once were. Eventually, they lost the desire to live together.

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