Thread: help me build a bard
Thursday, 11th September, 2008, 02:54 AM #1
help me build a bard
my stats are
i want a bard who wont be useless in combat but still have alot of options in out of combat situations. as a near full time DM ive never been able to sit down and play a bard so any advice on good feats and what equipment i should use are also helpful. a prestige class that is very bardish would be cool if you know any.
also only WOTC books
Last edited by lexoanvil; Thursday, 11th September, 2008 at 02:58 AM.
Thursday, 11th September, 2008, 03:00 AM #2
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Thursday, 11th September, 2008, 03:05 AM #3
Thursday, 11th September, 2008, 03:38 AM #4
Whip and Whip dagger (shared proficiency, bard effectively gets both) are very useful weapons for a Bard, and can work nicely for a disarm or trip build.
The only REQUIRED bard feat, if available, is Song of the Heart from the Eberron Campaign Setting. Haunting Melody, same book, is pretty cool, too.
For equipment, look to Magic Item Compendium. A crystal echoblade is a longsword that adds half your bard level to damage while your bardic music is playing. A +1 market price enhancement you could put on that or a whip is harmonizing. It picks up your bardic music after you stop performing it and carries it for 10 (?) rounds longer.
If you really want to focus on melee, there's two cool bard options. One is a CWarrior prestige class that gives cool new songs and full BAB, the Warchanter. Ask the DM to let the levels stack for the peuposes of inspire courage, which I think at the time of printing still didn't scale with Bard level. It's a requirement for the class, so it's a reasonable request. The other is multiclassing with Crusader or Warblade (Tome of Battle) and taking Song of the White Raven. It's a useful multiclassing feat, and lets you start inspire courage as a swift action if in a White Raven stance.
There's lots of useful spells, the most useful being Inspirational Boost (Spell Compendium) for +1 to your current inspire courage use.
Thursday, 11th September, 2008, 04:24 AM #5
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Saturday, 13th September, 2008, 09:55 AM #7
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Saturday, 13th September, 2008, 06:58 PM #8
Saturday, 13th September, 2008, 09:08 PM #9
Well, some more info would have been nice. All I had to work on was assuming some generally useful melee bard, without even being sure that's what you want.
And if you've been DM up until now, have you never built classed NPC opponents? The process is exactly the same, it shouldn't be a difficult transition.
Sunday, 14th September, 2008, 05:25 PM #10
so anyone who even sudgested a feat or two thank you alot your advice it has been fantastic.
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