RichGreen
Adventurer
That's almost right. Wolfgang is the one who decides when the project is finished - since all of the OD projects have ended up being much longer than they were supposed to be no one's complained so far
Cheers
Richard
Wrath of the River King - Wolfgang Baur's Open Design
That's almost right. Wolfgang is the one who decides when the project is finished - since all of the OD projects have ended up being much longer than they were supposed to be no one's complained so far
Cheers
Richard
Glyfair
Explorer
And the ability to see the design process and other insider bits. Each project also tends to have a series of articles about designing adventures that are similar to Dungeoncraft but a bit more "creating a commercial adventure" oriented (not enough that they aren't useful to those of us who have no intention of doing it).
In fact, the ones from Steam & Brass were edited by WotC and presented on their website (a search can find them, probably by searching for Wolfgang's name on the WotC site).
One of these days I am going to have a gameday (or game weekend) and will try to run Steam & Brass as part of that Gameday.
Dire Bare
Legend
Ya know, if the patronage idea doesn't work for you, that's fine.
But there is no need to be insulting, it just shows ignorance. Baur has plenty of fans who really dig the patronage idea and buy in with full knowledge of how the system works, and they are very happy with the result. Calling this a scam insults not only Baur, but all of his patrons on the various projects.
To be a scam, deception must be involved. There is no deception here at all, just a purchase model you personally don't care for.
Lighten up . . . and don't buy into the next Open Design project. Simple solution.
mach1.9pants
Hero
LOL I hope your blood pressure is back to normal levels
Haffrung Helleyes
First Post
well
I haven't participated in one of these yet, but like the patron model and probably will in the future. It seems like taking part in the design process would probably make me a better homebrew adventure designer. Think of it as an adventure writing seminar.
That said, I do wish there was a way for me to buy the old projects. Since the idea of the system is that the Patrons own the finished product, why not sell them and pay the original patrons royalties?
Ken
I haven't participated in one of these yet, but like the patron model and probably will in the future. It seems like taking part in the design process would probably make me a better homebrew adventure designer. Think of it as an adventure writing seminar.
That said, I do wish there was a way for me to buy the old projects. Since the idea of the system is that the Patrons own the finished product, why not sell them and pay the original patrons royalties?
Ken
Fame coacta uulpes alta in uinea
uuam adpetebat, summis saliens uiribus.
Quam tangere ut non potuit, discedens ait:
"Nondum matura es; nolo acerbam sumere."
Qui, facere quae non possunt, uerbis eleuant,
adscribere hoc debebunt exemplum sibi.
Glyfair
Explorer
That's not quite accurate. Wolfgang (and Nic on his) still own the copyrights not the patrons. However, they have agreed to certain conditions on where they will use the copyrighted material.
On example is that Wolfgang has reprinted some bits about his Zobeck world from Steam & Brass in Kobold Quarterly articles. That's legit (IIRC it was an expansion of some steampunkish magic), but reprinting whole sections of the adventure would be a different matter.
Baron Opal
First Post
That's not really the point, at least from my perspective:
Vinitor dignat sui aeris. Etsi ars fecit paucis, artifex debet sivisse vendere multis.
Varianor Abroad
Explorer
Can we get this in English please? It's been 24+ years since high school Latin. Thank you.
Varianor Abroad
Explorer
Not really. If the project is available to someone as part of the current patronage deal, the review would be really helpful. (I also note that multiple Open Design projects have been ENnie-nominated. The judges must have though they were pretty good. They are unlikely to ever win due to the fewer numbers of patrons.)
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