IMHO it's the point that you have to pay $50+ just to be part of a conversion project. Regardless of the quality of the adventure, you're paying more money to do less in the patron project.
New Open Design: Halls of the Mountain King
Monkey King
Explorer
Yes, you do basically get a 4E adventure. Perhaps a month or two later than otherwise.
I've been avoiding the discussion of the 4E Gazetteer, mostly because there's no way for me to know right now how many 4E patrons will take a full or partial refund, and how many will continue with the project.
Ask me about the Gazetteer again after the greenlight/launch. Maybe there will be enough funds to do the 4E Gazetteer book.
Monkey King
Explorer
I'm not entirely clear on what you're saying here. Do less of what, exactly, than an equivalent 3E patron?
Heck, since there are fewer 4E patrons than OGL/3E patrons, I suppose you could argue that there's *more* options, since fewer people will be interested overall. Kind of a stretch, maybe.
A 3e patron is making the module for their edition.
A 4e patron has to convert the module, which is extra work.
But only a small number of those patrons are getting to actually do the conversion, because they paid more to have the "privilege" to do it. It's like paying full price for someone else's left-overs to reheat yourself.
But you still have to be a senior/expert just to do it. Being a 4e patron on a 3e project is all ready a disadvantage, because you're doing twice, if not three times the work to go after every thing to try and make it work for a different system, but you have to pay just as much as a 3e senior/expert to get the privilege to do the conversion in the first place.
Qwillion
First Post
I am an OGL supporter (I went the whole $150).
I think a conversion enhances the project and I applaud The Monkey King for wading into a legal gray area of any conversion, if it went 4e but there would be a 3.X conversion I would still remain a member.
Heck I am doing an unofficial conversion to Arcana Evolved for my homebrew game regardless!
I do think that the support for both 4e and OGL shows that Open Design to do a second project. Perhaps the Monkey King might pick a freelancer to work on this second project as stand alone 4E project (perhaps with a 3.5 conversion). I am sure a contributer to Wrath of the River King might have stood out, and could be trusted even to manage the project.
Anyway I just wanted to say thank you to The Monkey King for taking the risk of a conversion (the legal gray area that it is).
I think a conversion enhances the project and I applaud The Monkey King for wading into a legal gray area of any conversion, if it went 4e but there would be a 3.X conversion I would still remain a member.
Heck I am doing an unofficial conversion to Arcana Evolved for my homebrew game regardless!
I do think that the support for both 4e and OGL shows that Open Design to do a second project. Perhaps the Monkey King might pick a freelancer to work on this second project as stand alone 4E project (perhaps with a 3.5 conversion). I am sure a contributer to Wrath of the River King might have stood out, and could be trusted even to manage the project.
Anyway I just wanted to say thank you to The Monkey King for taking the risk of a conversion (the legal gray area that it is).
I signed up for the OGL tonight and am looking forward to the process. I am not sure my payment went thru however since I didn't get an email letting me know my paypal account was charged. I tried to post something over on the boards at the Open Design site but didn't have any luck doing that either.
I am not having much luck this evening it seems.
I am not having much luck this evening it seems.
vic20
Fool
A level 6 elite ogl-ogre brute enters the fray. The 4E champions tremble at the sight of the immense warrior before them, and brace themselves for the clash.
catsclaw227
First Post
Do you mean that it is about $500 to reach the commission for 4e and $300 for the OGL?
I thought it was about how much money came in, not the number of supporters?
Wolfgang -- if you are still watching. How much money would it take to reach the 4e commission and how much money is required to reach an OGL commission?
RichGreen
Adventurer
That's what Wolfgang said on the KQ forum. Maybe he's assuming $25 or average donations?
Cheers
Richard
catsclaw227
First Post
Yep, I just caught that comment on his site.
I am curious what the dollar amount requirements are now.
I am curious what the dollar amount requirements are now.
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