Converting Planescape monsters

freyar · Dec 8, 2018

They do look done! What's next up here?

Cleon · Dec 8, 2018

freyar said:
They do look done!

Updating the Figment Working Draft.

freyar said:
What's next up here?

Offhand I can't think of any unconverted Planescape monsters that I fancy converting - well apart from the ones in Tales of The Infinite Staircase we're already doing I guess.

I'd rather leave this thread fallow and catch up on a few Dragon or Dungeon Magazine beasties.

freyar · Dec 22, 2018

Sounds like a plan!

Cleon · Dec 24, 2018

freyar said:
Sounds like a plan!

Rest well, sweat thread…

…'til dark eons prompt you to rise again!

Oryan77 · Feb 20, 2019

Cleon said:
Rest well, sweat thread…

…'til dark eons prompt you to rise again!

Ah man, not even the Reave? We've been waiting on those guys since 2004. Ok, maybe I'm the only one that has been waiting on those guys.

Cleon · Feb 21, 2019

Oryan77 said:
Ah man, not even the Reave? We've been waiting on those guys since 2004. Ok, maybe I'm the only one that has been waiting on those guys.

I'm game to start a conversion of the Reave if you and/or Freyar are.

Oryan77 · Feb 22, 2019

Well, maybe this could help kick start things? I did not write this up. I believe I pulled this from an old WotC conversion thread back in the 3.5 days. I only have the mechanical effects and this was sort of my cliff notes version that I used years ago when I ran some of these guys in an encounter. I don't know how accurate this draft is, but here you go...

Reave
Medium Monstrous Humanoid [Extraplanar]
Hit Dice: 2d8+4 (13 hp)
Initiative: +0
Speed: 20 ft. (4 squares)
Armor Class: 19 (+2 NA, +7 Half-Plate), touch 10, flat-footed 19
Base Attack/Grapple: +2/+5
Attack: Longsword +3 melee (1d8+3/19–20)
Full Attack: Longsword +3 melee (1d8+3/19–20) and 3 Short Swords +3/+3/+3 melee (1d6+3/19–20), or Halberd +3 melee (1d10+3/x3) and 2 Short Swords +3/+3 melee (1d6+3/19–20)
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: —
Special Qualities: darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, Odd Symmetry, Astral Fading
Saves: Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3
Abilities: Str 17, Dex 11, Con 15, Int 8, Wis 11, Cha 9
Skills: Listen +2, Spot +5
Feats: Multiweapon Fighting
Environment: ?
Organization: ?
Challenge Rating: 2
Treasure: Standard
Alignment: Usually Lawful Evil
Advancement: ?
Level Adjustment: ?

Odd Symmetry (Ex): Cannot be flanked due to odd body symmetry.

Astral Fading (Ex): Full round action, can shift to the Astral Plane for 6 rounds. Can shift back to original location 100 yards away from original position as a full round action. The Reave is aware of what happens while in the Astral and gains the incorporeal type.

Cleon · Feb 22, 2019

Oryan77 said:
Well, maybe this could help kick start things? I did not write this up. I believe I pulled this from an old WotC conversion thread back in the 3.5 days. I only have the mechanical effects and this was sort of my cliff notes version that I used years ago when I ran some of these guys in an encounter. I don't know how accurate this draft is, but here you go...

So can I take that as meaning you're game to work on a conversion?

Oryan77 said:
Reave

I can see a fair few synchronicities with what I was thinking about for their stats in there, but I'm more inclined to build them from scratch.

Oryan77 · Feb 26, 2019

Cleon said:
So can I take that as meaning you're game to work on a conversion?

I can certainly try to help, but I don't seem to be as knowledgeable about monster creation as you guys. I tried to help before, but my suggestions were always shot down and I felt like I was being more of a burden than helpful. That is not meant as a dig on you guys. You know your stuff. I'm the one lacking the skills in that department to be of any real help. :blush:

Cleon · Feb 27, 2019

Oryan77 said:
I can certainly try to help, but I don't seem to be as knowledgeable about monster creation as you guys. I tried to help before, but my suggestions were always shot down and I felt like I was being more of a burden than helpful. That is not meant as a dig on you guys. You know your stuff. I'm the one lacking the skills in that department to be of any real help.

Don't worry about it, you have to start somewhere!

Might as well start then. The first question is creature type. I see two main possibilities:

Monstrous Humanoid (since they're described as "humanoids" and were originally from the Prime Material Plane).

Outsider (since they live on the Outer Planes).

There are arguments for both, so it really goes down to which tickles our fancy more. The Outsider option is the stronger of the two.

A secondary question is what subtypes they have. They live on Acheron but it's debatable whether Reaves are truly native to Acheron (which might give them the Extraplanar, Evil & Lawful subtypes like an Achaierai). I could see them having a subset of those subtypes like some other Acheron inhabitants such as the Bladeling and Justicator (which are just Lawful) or the Bonespear, Siege Beetle & Steelwing (which are just Extraplanar) or even no subtypes like the Steel Predator.

Any ideas?