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Thread: Why DON'T you pirate?
Tuesday, 7th April, 2009, 06:20 PM #11
Myrmidon (Lvl 10)
While I don't know exactly what goes into making these things, I understand that 'quite a bit' basically sums it up. Also, getting your stuff out there in the marketplace without corporate backing could be challenging, I expect.
I do know from experience what it can be like in the music industry, as that's something I've been involved in (as a muso) and, to a lesser extent now, still am. And yeah, assuming you care at all about the stuff you create - and that you truly create stuff in the first place! - it can be pretty damn hard sometimes, depending on circumstances of course.
So anyway, just as I appreciate every single person who's bought one of our CDs, and - I hope - everyone who buys the book(s) I'll get around to writing , it's only right and fair that I respect the creators of RPG products, and show that respect in the ways that I can.
Also. . .
Originally Posted by DreadPirateMurphy
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Tuesday, 7th April, 2009, 06:27 PM #12
Lama (Lvl 13)
One thing I think would be helpful for publishers is to provide a solid preview of their products. IMHO, a "rules light" or "fastplay" versions of their games is usually a good way to go get a good preview of their game.
Anyways, that's my take.
Tuesday, 7th April, 2009, 06:27 PM #13
Myrmidon (Lvl 10)
I have to question some of the others, specifically as they apply to people who DO pirate.
Take the hypthetical person who pirates music to see if he likes it, and goes out and buys it if he does. In my experience, every time I've met someone who claims to do this, they have a collection of mp3s they've purchased as a result of downloading a copy and liking it, and then they have a collection of music ten or a hundred times larger that they have downloaded and didn't go out and buy.
Or the hypothetical person who claims that he only pirates material from people he doesn't respect. I've talked to people who say they do this, as if they were some sort of modern Robin Hood teaching a lesson to some corporate fat cat. I always get the feeling that the lack of respect and the desire for pirated material are, at least in part, connected. It always seems like a justification rather than a reason.
Tuesday, 7th April, 2009, 06:27 PM #14
Defender (Lvl 8)
As a writer, I'm inherently tuned into the idea of owning my own work and controlling its distribution. Chalk up the fact that I don't pirate to the idea that I wouldn't want people to pirate my work. Also, that consumers should actually pay creators for products they wish to enjoy.
Tuesday, 7th April, 2009, 07:15 PM #15
Waghalter (Lvl 7)
I don't actively pirate myself, but I have received PDF's from people who I know aquired them from pirating. Many of my friends have only exclusively pirated copies of books. They can't afford books they claim. I am no better as if they have a file I need they transfer it to my jump drive. all the files I have from them are of books I already own, just not in PDF form.
I don't get how pirates make money, and I mean the sponsoring sites. What is in it for them other than fines and jail time. They do not charge for their copies, so what is the point.
Tuesday, 7th April, 2009, 07:27 PM #16
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There's also a few other kinds of reasons, like fame in the warez scene, or ideological concerns, but when it comes down to it, pirates are just trying to pass stuff around for the sake of people having that stuff.
It's the same with the old pre-internet VHS bootleg networks that used to distribute foreign movies, especially stuff like horror or exploitation films that were often banned in North America. They just wanted to get people watching the films they love.
It's not that they're out to procure any gain for themselves. It's that it's fun, and it makes them feel helpful. They just don't see the five concerns in the OP as very important, and behave accordingly.
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Tuesday, 7th April, 2009, 07:30 PM #17
Lama (Lvl 13)
I believe it is wrong to steal at any time, from any person, for any reason. Hence I will not do it nor condone others doing it.
Tuesday, 7th April, 2009, 07:33 PM #18
Ethics. I think people should be able to make a living from their work and I don't have an overinflated sense of entitlement.
Which makes it damnably frustrating when certain companies insist on biting the hands that feed them.
Tuesday, 7th April, 2009, 07:37 PM #19
Enchanter (Lvl 12)
My experience begins and ends with Kazaa and Morpheus. I stopped using them for the following reasons:
(in no particular order)
1) Quality -- a significant minority of songs I downloaded were very poor quality. Staticky, skippy, distorted, whatever.
2) Signal to Noise -- Search for a title or artist and you might find what you're looking for. You'll also find a pile of mislabeled junk and porn.
3) Download Problems -- Downloads proceed fitfully, take forever and crash suddenly.
4) Random lawsuits against old ladies and little girls -- I don't want to be sued.
5) Fear of malware.
6) Nagging and unavoidable knowledge that illegal downloads are, in fact, illegal.
7) itunes -- legal, reasonably priced, known quality, better signal to noise, better download times.
Tuesday, 7th April, 2009, 07:40 PM #20
Gallant (Lvl 3)
I work for a software company. My livelyhood depends on people paying for our IP.
It would be more than a little hypocritical of me to make a practice of pirating someone else's IP.
Also, I believe in putting my money where my mouth is (so to speak). If an entity produces content I enjoy, the best way to get them to produce more is to financially reward them for having produced that content (by paying for a copy of it).
OTOH, I tend to be fairly liberal in what I believe to be "fair use" (to be clear, I'm talking about my own personal guidelines, not necessarily what is legally fair use) and don't feel any guilt about downloading a more conveniently formatted copy of content I already own.