One of my fellow players and DM's is of a mind that extra damage applied after a damage roll--such as by sneak attack, hunter's quarry, or warlock curse--isn't maximized by a critical hit. Is this an official exception to the rules for crits, and if so can someone cite the relevant clarification?
Sneak Attack Damage and Critical Hits
- Thread starter Felon
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My group always rolls the "extras" into the crit, so they are maxed as well... the only things you roll are the extra [w] rolls, and the crit adds from weapon (IE +1d6 per enhancement)... we don't roll anything else, it is all maxed.
But I don't know if this is a house-rule of ours, or if it is actual rules.
But I don't know if this is a house-rule of ours, or if it is actual rules.
abyssaldeath
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PHB FAQ said:
Hope that helps.
Norseman16469
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It's detailed on page 278 of the Players Handbook.
There are 2 relevant passages for your question.
The first says you do Maximum damage: Rather than roll damage, you determine the maximum damage you can roll with the attack.
The second is Extra Damage: Magic weapons and implements, as well as high crit weapons, can increase the damage you deal when you score a crit. If the EXTRA DAMAGE is a die roll, then it's not autmatically max damage, you add the result of the roll.
Sneak attack, warlocks curse and Hunters quarry all say they are extra damage die/dice and therefore should be rolled.
Hope this helps.
There are 2 relevant passages for your question.
The first says you do Maximum damage: Rather than roll damage, you determine the maximum damage you can roll with the attack.
The second is Extra Damage: Magic weapons and implements, as well as high crit weapons, can increase the damage you deal when you score a crit. If the EXTRA DAMAGE is a die roll, then it's not autmatically max damage, you add the result of the roll.
Sneak attack, warlocks curse and Hunters quarry all say they are extra damage die/dice and therefore should be rolled.
Hope this helps.
Nail
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They are wrong, as is Norseman16469.
...that last is particularly surprising, as he sited the relevant passages. Perhaps if he read them more slowly?
Nail
First Post
So.....
The sources of the "extra damage" it is talking about is clearly spelled out: magic weapons and implements, as well as high crit weapons. It's an exclusive, not inclusive, list.
andPH1-p276 said:
You'll note that it doesn't say "all extra damage, like from class features, can increase the damage...."PH1-p278 said:
The sources of the "extra damage" it is talking about is clearly spelled out: magic weapons and implements, as well as high crit weapons. It's an exclusive, not inclusive, list.
They are wrong, as is Norseman16469.
...that last is particularly surprising, as he sited the relevant passages. Perhaps if he read them more slowly?
Sneak attack damage is not EXTRA damage from a Critical.
Its normal damage from having CA.
Nail
First Post
Yup.
Why were you quoting me, exactly?
Becuase your such a genuis Nail and I am stalking your every move
But you hadnt quite naileded it on the head Nail.
I thought your explanation needed some embellsment, some finer points, some flavour, more personality, and superior clarification.
Becuase your such a genuis Nail and I am stalking your every move
But you hadnt quite naileded it on the head Nail.
I thought your explanation needed some embellsment, some finer points, some flavour, more personality, and superior clarification.
I am confused... was that a compliment or an insult?
either way, good points both of you!
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