Converting Greyhawk monsters

freyar · Apr 12, 2010

The somewhat tougher barbed devil does 1d8+Con, but the Con modifier isn't going to do much here.

Either 1d8 or 1d6+ some appropriate modifier (Str???).

Shade · Apr 12, 2010

Str does seem appropriate.

freyar · Apr 12, 2010

I wasn't sure, since spiked defense is kind of passive. Dex might work also, if it involves lining the spikes up with the attacker.

Cleon · Apr 12, 2010

freyar said:
NA seems maybe a touch too high for likely CR, but not much. The other ideas sound pretty good. As suggested before, let's add barbed defense.

Yes, we could knock the natural armour down.

Hmm, a Flesh Golem has the same hit dice and NA +10. If you stick one in full plate armour it'd get another +8 on armour, for the same AC as our spiked golem.

We could imagine it's the equivalent of Banded/Splint for +16 NA instead and AC24?

Barbed Defense for 1d8+Str sounds good to me.

Shade · Apr 12, 2010

+16 NA and 1d8+Str spiked defense sounds good.

Updated.

freyar · Apr 13, 2010

CR 7?

10-13 HD (Large), 14-27 HD (Huge)?

Shade · Apr 13, 2010

Updated.

It looks like we just need construction.

Cleon · Apr 14, 2010

freyar said:
CR 7?

10-13 HD (Large), 14-27 HD (Huge)?

Those both look good.

I also think this golem should weigh less than a standard Iron Golem. It's got a Strength 8 points lower (approx 1/3rd the carrying capacity) and half the HD, so I do think it's a lot less "substantial".

Cut the weight to half?

Shade · Apr 14, 2010

The halved weight appeals.

Blending the iron golem's construction mechanics with the flesh golem's DCs and pricing yields...

Construction
A spiked golem’s body is sculpted from 2,500 pounds of assorted metals, smelted with rare tinctures and admixtures costing at least 500 gp. Assembling the body requires a DC 13 Craft (armorsmithing) check or a DC 13 Craft (weaponsmithing) check.

CL 8th; Craft Construct, geas/quest, keen edge, limited wish, caster must be at least 8th level; Price 20,000 gp; Cost 10,500 gp + 780 XP.

Does that work?