Proposal - Dragon Magazine 369 - Minotaur

Tinwe · Jul 18, 2009

TwoHeadsBarking said:
Yes, I'm sure oversized played a significant part in their choice of race, but Str/Con and Str/Dex are pretty attractive for melee fighters too. When Hrav was created, Bugbears were the only Str/Dex race available. All of the minotaurs were created before PHB2, so it was either minotaur or warforged for Str/Con, and I get the feeling that warforged are an acquired taste.

Pretty much that right there for Grim. The bonus to stealth was nice for a ranger, too, especially for one with a "scout" backstory like Grim.

elecgraystone · Jul 18, 2009

LOL Look at the Githyanki. It's the ONLY CON/INT race. It was the reason I looked at the race in the first place. For an infernal warlock, those stats fit quite nicely.

This is one thing that bugs me with the race stats so far. Some stat combo's are very common and others are supper rare. It'd be nice to see some more variety.

TwoHeadsBarking · Jul 18, 2009

elecgraystone said:
LOL Look at the Githyanki. It's the ONLY CON/INT race. It was the reason I looked at the race in the first place. For an infernal warlock, those stats fit quite nicely.

This is one thing that bugs me with the race stats so far. Some stat combo's are very common and others are supper rare. It'd be nice to see some more variety.

No kidding. My heart broke when revenents turned out to be con/dex instead of con/int.

elecgraystone · Jul 18, 2009

TwoHeadsBarking said:
No kidding. My heart broke when revenents turned out to be con/dex instead of con/int.

Yeah, I was hoping that too...

Kalidrev · Jul 18, 2009

Personally... I think that the reason that the Revenant was Con Dex and not Con Int is because one of the Assassin builds will be Dex Con bassed. I think the other will be Dex Wis or Dex Cha.

elecgraystone · Jul 18, 2009

Kobold, gnoll and bullywug's all have +Con and Dex so they really didn't need a FOURTH one when there is only one +Con and Int.

Kalidrev · Jul 18, 2009

I agree, but it DOES give a someone who is in a NON MONSTER campaign the chance to use a Dex Con PC.

elecgraystone · Jul 18, 2009

Kalidrev said:
I agree, but it DOES give a someone who is in a NON MONSTER campaign the chance to use a Dex Con PC.

Not disputing that, but it DOES show the imbalance of some stats. Look at how many +cha +dex races there are! :hmm:

Though now that I think about it, I don't know if I'd place Revenants in the non-monster category.

garyh · Jul 18, 2009

Tinwe said:
Pretty much that right there for Grim. The bonus to stealth was nice for a ranger, too, especially for one with a "scout" backstory like Grim.

Bugbear solidarity!

JoeNotCharles · Jul 21, 2009

Ok, I'm tired of hearing about the Minotaur. Voting YES to the Dragon 369 Minotaur article, with two additions: existing minotaurs are grandfathered in and can continue to use the MM version or switch to the 369 version at level-up, and new feats and paragon paths from this article can't be used by MM minotaurs.