I'll agree with CaBaNa on the character sheet being a humongous PITA. Proposals just filter the "new toy" syndrome that everyone gets when new material is released but its not detrimental to the world. Having to battle with that template however is a big entry barrier for new players. I know I almost threw the towel.
Proposal: Fix the proposal system
garyh
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The advantage you new folks have is that you can cut and paste from existing PC's. I created Growl and only had to actually type up with a single power myself.
And that's with a druid.But if we wanna talk PC template, it's probably best to start a new thread.
covaithe
Explorer
I'm coming around to JNC's original proposal. I've had cause a couple of times in the last week to dig through the previous pages of threads in this forum, and there really are a ridiculous number of proposals. Something's gotta be done, and short of just freezing the available content, I don't see what can be done except auto-approve after a grace period, unless there is a proposal underway to ban or amend something specific.
JoeNotCharles
First Post
Last night I accidentally removed all the "Discussion here" links in the charter and I had to go through and recreate them. While I was doing that I found a proposal that had died without voting that even I forgot about - Dragon 368.
JoeNotCharles
First Post
Well, it looks like we're coming to a consensus on auto-approving. I also think it would be good to drop the timing from 3 months - some people suggested 1 month, but I think I'll be a bit conservative and say 2 months instead. (We can always drop it further later if this works out.)
So, here's the concrete proposal:
So that means if this passes the following would be adopted in 2 months:
And the following would not be adopted (and therefore would need to be listed as banned in the charter), since they were already rejected or at least in doubt:
Some of the banned stuff we just didn't want to deal with at the time, and either it was really high level (items, Epic Destinies) or we figured people who wanted it would make a proposal.
If this passes, someone may want to make proposals to discuss the Dragonmarks from Eberron, the Scales of War Backgrounds from Dragon 366, the Regions of the Realms article from Dragon 370, the Adventurers of the Realms and Sarifal articles from Dragon 376, and the Eberron Familiars article from Dragon 377. After this it will slow down since there won't be a big chunk of things coming in at once.
The point of this list isn't to make everyone scrutinize all these articles, it's just to be clear on what's already been discussed and what its status will be.
So, here's the concrete proposal:
So that means if this passes the following would be adopted in 2 months:
- Divine Power, except for the Hero of Faith feat
- Eberron Player's Guide
- Eberron Campaign Guide
- Player's Handbook Heroes, Series 2 miniatures (powers)
- Monster Manual 2 (new player races)
- Open Grave (items and rituals)
- Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide
- Dragon 366 articles: Mithrendain (new powers, paragon paths, and items), Ritually Speaking, Rose Keep (items), Scales of War Backgrounds
- Dragon 368, except for the feats Staff Fighting, Called Shot, Binding Style, Exotic Fighting Style, Hunting Spider Style, Starlight Duelist; and the items Whip and Net, and associated feats
- Dragon 369, except for the Minotaur article, Ghoststride Boots, and Giantkind Gloves
- Dragon 370
- Dragon 371
- Dragon 375
- Dragon 376
- Dragon 377
- Dragon 378 (if it's out by the time this passes)
- Several magic items and rituals which appeared in adventures (I know there are some in Dungeon Delve and Dungeon Magazine, dunno about the rest)
And the following would not be adopted (and therefore would need to be listed as banned in the charter), since they were already rejected or at least in doubt:
- everything mentioned as being excluded in the current charter (even the stuff from Arcane Power which is just "under discussion")
- Hero of Faith feat from Divine Power
- Dragon 364, Wolves of Maldeen and Ashen Covenant articles
- Dragon 365, Ecology of the Dragonborn and Ashardalon's Hoard articles
- Dragon 367, Epic Faerun article
- Dragon 368, Gladiators article: the feats Staff Fighting, Called Shot, Binding Style, Exotic Fighting Style, Hunting Spider Style, Starlight Duelist; and the items Whip and Net, and associated feats (under discussion here)
- Dragon 369, Minotaur article, Ghoststride Boots, and Giantkind Gloves (under discussion here)
- Dragon 372, Masters of the Planes article
- Dragon 373, the Orb of Entropy item
- Dragon 374, the White Lotus Academy article (under discussion here)
Some of the banned stuff we just didn't want to deal with at the time, and either it was really high level (items, Epic Destinies) or we figured people who wanted it would make a proposal.
If this passes, someone may want to make proposals to discuss the Dragonmarks from Eberron, the Scales of War Backgrounds from Dragon 366, the Regions of the Realms article from Dragon 370, the Adventurers of the Realms and Sarifal articles from Dragon 376, and the Eberron Familiars article from Dragon 377. After this it will slow down since there won't be a big chunk of things coming in at once.
The point of this list isn't to make everyone scrutinize all these articles, it's just to be clear on what's already been discussed and what its status will be.
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ryryguy
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There are mounts in the Eberron campaign guide - the infamous dinosaurs, and others. (I don't know about FRCG.)
TwoHeadsBarking
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The FRCG has both rituals and items.
I was unaware that Open Grave had any player-appropriate items. I know there are some artifacts, but those sort of fall in the category of DM stuff.
I was unaware that Open Grave had any player-appropriate items. I know there are some artifacts, but those sort of fall in the category of DM stuff.
JoeNotCharles
First Post
I didn't check them thoroughly, just saw that there were items there.
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