Best weight paper for double-sided printing?




What's on your mind?

+ Log in or register to post
Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Registered User
    Cutpurse (Lvl 5)

    rgard's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    "Where the winds of limbo roar"
    Posts
    2,086

    ° Ignore rgard
    My communities:

    Best weight paper for double-sided printing?

    Hi All,

    I'm about to do a DIY printing of some of my pdfs and would like to know what is the best weight of paper for printing the pages double-sided.

    Also, does it make a difference for the weight if printing with a laser printer or inkjet printer?

    Thanks,
    Rich
    I have a sneaking suspicion that I may become the 'Diaglo' of 3.5E.

    "If I reject Jedi situational ethics, does that make me a Sith?"

    Stuff on Ebay: http://stores.ebay.com/Blue-Star-Games

    Doing my best to annoy people: http://www.cafepress.com/sk/rbgard

    Yes, I was infatuated with Ms. Frost.

 

  • #2
    Member SILVER SUBSCRIBER
    Waghalter (Lvl 7)

    JediSoth's Avatar

    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Southport, IN
    Posts
    979
    Blog Entries
    7
    I Defended The Walls!ENniesGygax Memorial Fund

    ° Ignore JediSoth
    Quote Originally Posted by rgard View Post
    Hi All,

    I'm about to do a DIY printing of some of my pdfs and would like to know what is the best weight of paper for printing the pages double-sided.

    Also, does it make a difference for the weight if printing with a laser printer or inkjet printer?

    Thanks,
    Rich
    It makes a huge difference. When double-sided printing on an inkjet, I would go no less than a bright white (92 brightness at the minimum) 24 lb. bond.

    Laser printers don't have the bleed through inkjets do, so you can get away with 20 lb. bond (which is standard copier paper). I would still seek out a brighter paper, though, 92 brightness mininum. The brighter paper will make the text and graphics pop more and show through the other side less. I'd still do 24 lb. on the laser, though. I think it just feels better.

    Of course, depending on how many pages you're doing and how you're going to bind it, you may want to go with a lighter weight paper in the laser, like 20 lb., because it'll make a thinner, lighter book. But, for inkjet, yeah, paper thickness make a huge difference, especially if you're using multi-purpose paper instead of inkjet paper.

    My personal choices are:
    Inkjet printing: Hammermill ultra-bright white (I think it's like 106 brightness) Inkjet paper, 24 lb.
    Laser printing: Hammermill bright white laser paper (92 brightness, 24 lb.) -- though, for character sheets, I find 20 lb. copier/multi-purpose paper works just fine.
    JediSoth
    ENnie Awards Submissions Coordinator & Publisher Relations

    Author, Gamer, Foodie
    Doctor StrangeRoll or How I learned to stop worrying and love all D&D
    My Fiction Imprint - http:/vffpublishing.com
    All my novels are available on Amazon.com - fantasy & YA sci-fi
    "After time adrift among open stars, along tides of light and through shoals of dust, I will return to where I began."

  • #3
    Registered User
    Cutpurse (Lvl 5)

    rgard's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    "Where the winds of limbo roar"
    Posts
    2,086

    ° Ignore rgard
    My communities:

    JediSoth, great, thanks!
    I have a sneaking suspicion that I may become the 'Diaglo' of 3.5E.

    "If I reject Jedi situational ethics, does that make me a Sith?"

    Stuff on Ebay: http://stores.ebay.com/Blue-Star-Games

    Doing my best to annoy people: http://www.cafepress.com/sk/rbgard

    Yes, I was infatuated with Ms. Frost.

  • #4
    Registered User
    Grandfather of Assassins (Lvl 19)

    Klaus's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
    Posts
    12,537
    I Defended The Walls!

    ° Ignore Klaus
    Quote Originally Posted by JediSoth View Post
    It makes a huge difference. When double-sided printing on an inkjet, I would go no less than a bright white (92 brightness at the minimum) 24 lb. bond.

    Laser printers don't have the bleed through inkjets do, so you can get away with 20 lb. bond (which is standard copier paper). I would still seek out a brighter paper, though, 92 brightness mininum. The brighter paper will make the text and graphics pop more and show through the other side less. I'd still do 24 lb. on the laser, though. I think it just feels better.

    Of course, depending on how many pages you're doing and how you're going to bind it, you may want to go with a lighter weight paper in the laser, like 20 lb., because it'll make a thinner, lighter book. But, for inkjet, yeah, paper thickness make a huge difference, especially if you're using multi-purpose paper instead of inkjet paper.

    My personal choices are:
    Inkjet printing: Hammermill ultra-bright white (I think it's like 106 brightness) Inkjet paper, 24 lb.
    Laser printing: Hammermill bright white laser paper (92 brightness, 24 lb.) -- though, for character sheets, I find 20 lb. copier/multi-purpose paper works just fine.
    Say that again, but in Metric, please!


  • #5
    Registered User
    Waghalter (Lvl 7)

    kevtar's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Ha'ateiho, Tongatapu, Tonga
    Posts
    137

    ° Ignore kevtar

    try Kinkos or other print shop

    60 # offset is a good option too. You can get it from any paper supplier or quick printer.

  • #6
    Registered User
    Cutpurse (Lvl 5)

    tvknight415's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    105

    ° Ignore tvknight415
    My communities:

    Another vote for 24 lb paper. Also, I would recommend getting some heavy cardstock and using that to print the covers.
    Eric B.
    Nietzsche says, "God is dead." God says, "Nietzsche is dead."
    Long live Ravenloft and Moldvay Basic/Cook & Marsh Expert D&D !!!!

    Forget Leeroy Jenkins! Save Living Greyhawk !!!!

  • #7
    Registered User
    Defender (Lvl 8)

    Marius Delphus's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Posts
    996
    D&DWotBSZEITGEISTEN Publishing

    ° Ignore Marius Delphus
    20 lb. paper is roughly 75 g/m▓.
    24 lb. paper is roughly 90 g/m▓.
    60 lb. offset is roughly 225 g/m▓. [EDIT: oops, make that about 90]

    AFAICT, brightness values roughly match ISO standard, with a variance of about 2 points (the ISO number should be 1-2 points higher than the "US" number).

    [EDIT] I like printing my character sheets on 24 lb. bond. It feels nice and seems to withstand erasure better than cheap 20 lb. office paper... though I do have a series of character sheets with cellophane tape over the frequently-erased blanks. [/EDIT]
    Last edited by Marius Delphus; Saturday, 5th September, 2009 at 06:06 PM.
    ŚMarius

  • #8
    Note for those not familiar with paper industry weights:

    The weight noted (basis weight) refers to a ream (bundle of 500 sheets) of the standard size. This standard size depends on what type of paper you are talking about. The result is that 20# bond is not the same weight as 20# offset or 20# cover stock.

    For more information, see this page. Yes, this is another case where metric is quite a bit easier for the layman to understand.

  • #9
    Registered User
    Grandfather of Assassins (Lvl 19)

    Klaus's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
    Posts
    12,537
    I Defended The Walls!

    ° Ignore Klaus
    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Sundseth View Post
    Note for those not familiar with paper industry weights:

    The weight noted (basis weight) refers to a ream (bundle of 500 sheets) of the standard size. This standard size depends on what type of paper you are talking about. The result is that 20# bond is not the same weight as 20# offset or 20# cover stock.

    For more information, see this page. Yes, this is another case where metric is quite a bit easier for the layman to understand.
    Indeed, the Metric paper weight system notes how much a 1 meter x 1 meter square of said paper would weigh.

  • #10
    Registered User
    Gallant (Lvl 3)

    Doc_Klueless's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Santa Monica, Ca
    Posts
    690

    ° Ignore Doc_Klueless
    Myself, I tend to use 28# paper (for example: Boise HD:P Presentation Laser Paper 28 lb. ). Of course, I'm a bit strange about paper. I never print on anything less than 24#. I just like the feel. Plus, I don't print that much stuff. If I printed reams and reams all the time, I'd use 20# for that.

    So, to recap: 28# for things I want to use that will last a long time, look good and feel good.
    --Doc Klueless
    "I like to get XP intravenously. That, or sucking it directly from the marrow of my fallen foes." - RangerWickett

  • + Log in or register to post

    Similar Threads

    1. Lulu hardcover paper weight question.
      By jdrakeh in forum General RPG Discussion
      Replies: 3
      Last Post: Monday, 22nd October, 2007, 11:32 PM
    2. Twenty-Sided Pie
      By Kamikaze Midget in forum General RPG Discussion
      Replies: 34
      Last Post: Saturday, 2nd December, 2006, 06:32 AM
    3. Paper figures + paper miniatures (esp. Superheroes stuff)
      By Boyblue in forum Miscellaneous Geek Talk & Media Lounge
      Replies: 8
      Last Post: Wednesday, 9th November, 2005, 08:30 PM
    4. Paper format and printing margin?
      By Cergorach in forum General RPG Discussion
      Replies: 8
      Last Post: Friday, 21st May, 2004, 08:35 PM
    5. The original 20-sided die
      By Allensh in forum General RPG Discussion
      Replies: 3
      Last Post: Wednesday, 3rd December, 2003, 10:37 PM

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •