Goliath Warden Build Help

UngeheuerLich · Dec 5, 2009

I believe 14 con, 14 wis and 13 dex instead of 17 strength is a good idea if you want to go for polearm gamble.

You have to get to 15 wis anyway at paragon level, so this is where you could start. raise your dex to 15 and you qualify for HBO which could also be quite nice.

What you should not do however is using 17/16 build with a race that increases those two stats... your reflex and will defense will be deadly low. I would be especially worried about the hole in the will defense...

RedBeardJim · Dec 6, 2009

UngeheuerLich said:
What you should not do however is using 17/16 build with a race that increases those two stats... your reflex and will defense will be deadly low. I would be especially worried about the hole in the will defense...

Goliaths do get a +1 racial Will bonus, so that helps somewhat.

Thatwackyned · Jan 8, 2010

Ok, so we've started playing now. Warden, Warlock, Wizard, and Sorc. We're doing a campaign against Kobolds and damn are those suckers tough. Not to kill, but they get a +1 to hit for every Kobold surrounding the target. As a level 1 warden, what's my best strat to keep from having my ass handed to me?

RedBeardJim · Jan 8, 2010

If the kobolds are surrounding and focusing on you, you've got a couple of tools to weather the situation. As Earthstrength, you add your Con mod to your AC when you use Second Wind, *on top of* the +2 you normally get, and that lasts till your next turn. As a Goliath, you get the Resist 5 racial ability once per encounter, and *that* lasts till your next turn. Those will go a long way to keeping you up and fighting while your teammates help whittle down the bad guys, especially since your mark is a free action.

Thatwackyned · Jan 8, 2010

Ah, so my job is to sit there and take it, while my buddies blast away. I can do that.

RedBeardJim · Jan 8, 2010

Well, it's not your only job. I'm just saying that if you're getting into that kind of situation, you've got the tools to get through it better than most. If you stuck with the polearm build you were talking about earlier, you've got reach on your Warden's Fury attack, which helps keep the little buggers focused on you as well.

Thatwackyned · Jan 8, 2010

I went with Sword and Board, So me AC and Reflex is as high as possable. I'm not looking to be the damage dealer. I took mark of warding as my first level feat (called it a tribal tattoo and worked it in to my background). That makes me their fav target.

Herschel · Jan 8, 2010

Thatwackyned said:
Ok, so we've started playing now. Warden, Warlock, Wizard, and Sorc. We're doing a campaign against Kobolds and damn are those suckers tough. Not to kill, but they get a +1 to hit for every Kobold surrounding the target. As a level 1 warden, what's my best strat to keep from having my ass handed to me?

Find someone to play a leader. ;v) Actually, I don't think I am kidding. The advice given so far is very good and as a warden you have more HP and surges than anyone, but those "extra" surges are only as good as the source(s) to trigger them. A Battle Cleric or Warlord would be nice to give you some front line help. Barring that potentially unlikely situation, just follow the advice given already.

Destil · Jan 8, 2010

You may also want to pick up the warlord (or cleric/bard/artificer) muilticlass feat. It's an extra surge a day whenever you need it most...

Sanzuo · Jan 8, 2010

Get a Cloak of the Walking Wounded ASAP. It will go a long way towards survivability. Its property is activated when you second wind - which is when you should be hulking out anyway.

Some other items I recommend: