Converting Oriental Adventures creatures

Shade · Dec 6, 2011

Agreed to either Str or Con, but not both.

Why are we lowering the caster level again?

Cleon · Dec 6, 2011

Shade said:
Agreed to either Str or Con, but not both.

Why are we lowering the caster level again?

Because it's got 1 less Hit Dice than a Kappa-Ti.

The original monster cast spells as a Wu Jen of a level equal to its HD.

Shade · Dec 7, 2011

Cleon said:
Because it's got 1 less Hit Dice than a Kappa-Ti.

The original monster cast spells as a Wu Jen of a level equal to its HD.

Maybe it's inherently more potent?

freyar · Dec 8, 2011

Let's just go with Con for the blood drain.

I'd still rather lower the CL. I don't think they seem more potent as casters. And, besides, we should change up a few spells to distinguish them a little. We're into monsters that need some help by now.

Cleon · Dec 8, 2011

freyar said:
Let's just go with Con for the blood drain.

I'd still rather lower the CL. I don't think they seem more potent as casters. And, besides, we should change up a few spells to distinguish them a little. We're into monsters that need some help by now.

That's what I'd go for, too.

We seem to be in sync today!

freyar · Dec 9, 2011

Now we just need to convince Shade.

Shade · Dec 9, 2011

freyar said:
Now we just need to convince Shade.

Who am I to argue with your synchronicity?

Since you two are in sync, I'll let you update the spells list.

Cleon · Dec 10, 2011

Shade said:
Who am I to argue with your synchronicity?

Can we finish off the Blood Drain too?

I'm thinking we should modify the Rast approach:

Blood Drain: A rast drains blood from a grabbed opponent, dealing 1 point of Constitution damage each round it maintains the hold.

After thinking it over, we're probably better off adding a separate Disease Special Attack that does Strength damage for the "debilitating disease".

Blood Drain (Ex): A vampiric kappa drains blood from a grabbed opponent, dealing 1d4 [?] point of Constitution damage each round it maintains the hold as well as exposing the opponent to the kappa's disease attack.

Disease (Ex): Any creature injured by a vampiric kappa's bite or blood drain attacks is exposed to [red ache?].

Red ache—bite or blood drain, Fortitude DC 18, incubation period 1d3 days, damage 1d4 Str. The save DC is Constitution-based.

Shade said:
Since you two are in sync, I'll let you update the spells list.

So Freyar, shall we give it any different spells or just reduce its selection to match the lower CL?

freyar · Dec 11, 2011

Blood drain looks fine, probably even with 1d4 Con. And I like red ache for it.

Let's start by removing spells, then swap a few around. It should have 6/7/7/5 now, I think.

Cleon · Dec 12, 2011

freyar said:
Blood drain looks fine, probably even with 1d4 Con. And I like red ache for it.

Updated Working Draft.

freyar said:
Let's start by removing spells, then swap a few around. It should have 6/7/7/5 now, I think.

That's the spells per day, yes.

Its spells known are 7/5/3/2, so we need to but 1 0-level spell and the 4th-level spell.

Maybe remove the create water?

I like the current spell selection quite a lot. Do you have any particular swaps in mind?

We could swap out hideous laughter, based on the assumption it prefers to pick off its opponents quietly and doesn't have Spell Focus (Enchantment). It's more about grabbing and blood-sucking, so something defensive like blur or protective from arrows.

EDIT: On second thoughts, swap the invisibility for blur and keep the hideous laughter.