Ok, I'm trying to determine exactly how much damage a Sacred Flame attack does. The attack actually states "Instead of normal damage..." What exactly is meant by that? Does that just mean the damage die such as the 1d12 a 10th level Sacred fist does? What about the Strength bonus or the "No Shadow Blows" damage? Hopefully this has been clarified somewhere and I just missed it. Thanks for the help.
Sacred Fist- Sacred Flame
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Zhure
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"Sacred Flame (Sp): At 7th level, a sacred fist may use a standard action to invoke sacred flames around his hands and feet. instead of normal damage, a successful attack with these sacred flames deals damage as follows: 1d6 + Wisdom modifier if positive + sacred fist class level. The attack has a maximum possible damage of 1d6+15 points. At least half the damage is fire
damage, and the rest is sacred energy (and thus not subject to effects that reduce fire damage). "
I read it as replacing the 1d12+STR since that's the only "normal" unarmed damage a Sacred Fist does. Since it specifically mentions adding the wisdom modifier, it stands to reason Puissant Fists is sort of already added in. If GMF has been cast, I think that would add to the damage.
Greg
damage, and the rest is sacred energy (and thus not subject to effects that reduce fire damage). "
I read it as replacing the 1d12+STR since that's the only "normal" unarmed damage a Sacred Fist does. Since it specifically mentions adding the wisdom modifier, it stands to reason Puissant Fists is sort of already added in. If GMF has been cast, I think that would add to the damage.
Greg
Kraedin
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Destil- How do you define "normal damage"? For example, a character who is has a base strength of 16, raging, with bull's strength, divine favor, a flaming burst greatsword +1, a girdle of giant's strength +6, a greater magic weapon spell at caster level 20, and a +5 inherent bonus to strength.
Which parts of this attack do "normal damage"?
Which parts of this attack do "normal damage"?
Destil
Explorer
Typicaly, no such definiton is needed or relevent. The ability of the Sacred Fist specificlay mentions 'normal damage', however. Though this will be funKraedin said:
+3 Str bonus
+4 Bonus to Str(20), Bringing the total bonus to +5
Illrelevent, the enhancement bonus won't stack with the girdle.
Assuming a 18th caster level, this produces a +6 luck bonus to damage.
2d6+1 slashing damage + 1d6 fire damage. On a crit there's an added 1d10 fire damage.
Bringing Str (26) bonus to +8
Bringing the sword's slashing damage to2d6+5.
Bringing Str(31) bonus to +10
Final Damage -
2d6 + 5 (weapon enhancement) + 15(1.5xStr) + 6 (luck bonus) Slashing Damage + 1d6 Fire Damage.
OR 2d6+26(slash) + 1d6(fire)
On a Crit-
4d6 + 10 + 30 + 12 Slashing Damage + 1d6+1d10 Fire Damage.
OR 4d6+52(slash) + 1d6+1d10(fire)
None. The instant the Sacred fist picks up the great sword they loose their special class abilitys, and thus can't use Sacred Flame.
ConcreteBuddha
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Sacred flame has a max damage of 1d6 +15 total.
The reason this is of any usefulness is that it provides the class with an alternate way of damaging enemies besides their fists. Without this ability. Anything immune to bludgeoning weapons throughly defeats the SF.
The reason this is of any usefulness is that it provides the class with an alternate way of damaging enemies besides their fists. Without this ability. Anything immune to bludgeoning weapons throughly defeats the SF.
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