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Wednesday, 23rd June, 2010, 08:32 PM #251
Acolyte (Lvl 2)
Jeff Jarvis can successfully adapt, so can you. You're a smart guy, you can do this.
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Wednesday, 23rd June, 2010, 08:34 PM #252
Cutpurse (Lvl 5)
Wednesday, 23rd June, 2010, 08:36 PM #253
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Wednesday, 23rd June, 2010, 08:47 PM #254
Cutpurse (Lvl 5)
It seems clear to me that every product along this line to date, with the exception of the novel lines, has been based on the hope for mere uncritical acceptance of whatever is produced, because of the D&D logo.
That dilutes the D&D logo, and is ultimately damaging to awareness of the game in a positive light.
You are so right, so much of 4E and some of the later stuff of the 3.5 era definitely seems to have been put out with the belief that people will buy it just because it has the D&D logo on the cover.
Wednesday, 23rd June, 2010, 08:49 PM #255
Magsman (Lvl 14)
I think _that_ tells you more about why big companies aren't scratching at our doors than the blog post that kicked off this whole thread.
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Wednesday, 23rd June, 2010, 08:54 PM #256
Myrmidon (Lvl 10)
Wednesday, 23rd June, 2010, 08:57 PM #257
Just maybe some creators and companies are toxic too. Where do they come from? What spawns them!?
Oh, ****. They're gamers, aren't they? Run for the hills! ZOMG!
Do I at least get awesome Toxic Avenger powers?
Wednesday, 23rd June, 2010, 08:59 PM #258
Scout (Lvl 6)
Again, if people were actually reading what others have said, rather than what they think has been said, we'd be much better off.
For example, lecturing me on adapting my business model to compete with Free is amusing as hell, considering that in my transmedia posts ---linked earlier this thread, and written almost two months ago --- I advocate that RPGs should be *given away* as one platform of your property.
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Wednesday, 23rd June, 2010, 08:59 PM #259
The Great Druid (Lvl 17)
You can say "Us being perceived as toxic =/= everyone else drinking the kool-aid".
I say, "Both are examples of segregating us and them, and either there is a valid segregation or there is not. If there is, then suggesting that we are more critical (and thus less likely to just drink the kool-aid) is valid. If not, then suggesting that we are more critical (and hence more toxic) is not."
Is it? People can rave about tuna being from Mars all they want, and it has no effect on consumer behaviour. However, the critique about dolphins did, indeed, make the tuna fishery change. I assume that the blog is talking about criticism that is actually listened to. Criticism that is ignored, presumably, is ignored.I don't believe that "everyone else" consumes silently. Some do, some critique constructively, and some rave like lunatics. The assertion of the blog was that TTRPGers have a larger number of ravers than other groups that producers can market to.
Certainly, the CNN comments were not "raving", yet they were pointed out as an example in this trend.
Again, YMMV. Quite a bit farther from mine in this case, I expect.
Really? Not my experience at all.The status quo is that we are nothing but geeks and losers, living in our mothers basements, pretending to be elves and that we should be marginalized in all areas of society except our own little niche.
Please do. Controversy fuels interest.Every time you mention RCFRP I don't spew bile against it because it's not my game of choice.
Ah, well then. First you need to define what hobby you are talking about, as I suggested upthread. I feel quite certain that there are a number of people who feel 4e actually drains gamers from thier hobby.And to ignore the fact that comments like these could drive a potential new gamer away is sticking your head in the sand. And you said up thread that new players helps grow the hobby. So is driving a potential new player away damaging the hobby or not. You can't have it both ways.
And, please note, I am not saying that they are correct. What I am saying is that, as with most people, they are behaving in a manner consistent with what they believe to be in their best interests.
Their base assumptions are different than yours.
No amount of crying about it is going to change it.
And that's a fact.Sometimes, it's easier to change your target market.
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Wednesday, 23rd June, 2010, 09:04 PM #260
Magsman (Lvl 14)
"I realize that I am generalizing here, but, as is often the case when I generalize, I don't care." Dave Barry