Magic Missile while blinded

DracoSuave · Oct 4, 2010

The Little Raven said:
One thing you forgot, DracoSuave, is that you can actively perceive something on your turn. This is a Perception roll against the creature's last Stealth check (presumably, the one that beat your Passive Perception to become hidden from you).

In cases where the opponent is actually hidden (i.e. they used Stealth) then obviously you can attempt Perception. But in the case where they are not, I strongly suggest not giving the guy you can't see additional benefit by requiring a further test of their perception; Either the enemy is not bothering/broke stealth, or the enemy failed their stealth check against Passive Perception -10.

The -10 to checks for being blind DOES apply to Passive Perception, as it is considered a check where you take 10. And if the enemy failed stealth that badly, they shouldn't get benefit.

Wednesday Boy · Oct 5, 2010

Kamikaze Midget said:
That's not true, though. If you're blinded, you can still know where your enemy is and swing at them with your sword and maybe hit them. You take a pretty big penalty, but you can still give it a whirl and maybe hit them -- maybe even crit them!

"Boba Fett!? Where??"

Psikerlord# · Oct 5, 2010

If you're suffering the blind condition, all that means if you're -5 to hit your target. You still know exactly where he is... unless he makes a stealth check, and you fail your perception test, in which case he becomes hidden and you don't know where he is, or even if he is still around. At that point, I'd say MM cannot target him ... because you don't even know if there is a target ... it would be like firing into every empty room you come across, just in case an invisible wizard is lurking there..

cavalier973 · Oct 6, 2010

Psikerlord# said:
it would be like firing into every empty room you come across, just in case an invisible wizard is lurking there..

Wait...isn't that, like, standard procedure while dungeon crawling?

Mad Hamish · Oct 6, 2010

Nah, you throw the gnome into the room to see if there's anything lurking.

DracoSuave · Oct 6, 2010

Psikerlord# said:
At that point, I'd say MM cannot target him ... because you don't even know if there is a target ... it would be like firing into every empty room you come across, just in case an invisible wizard is lurking there..

I'd say MM can target the square you think they might be in, and if you guessed correctly, you MM them, otherwise, you don't.

Cause that's how the rules work.

Rabbitbait · Oct 7, 2010

MrMyth said:
Yeah, my bad there. This second page was clearly invisible to me - cursed wizards!

And yet you still managed to attack!

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