Converting Epic Level Creatures

Cleon said:

Shouldn't we fiddle with its ability scores?

Dex 36 seems too good, and its Str and Con seem weak.

Compare the Primal Elementals:

Air Elder: Str 22, Dex 33, Con 18
Air Primal: Str 32, Dex 43, Con 28
Air Elemaster: Str 36, Dex 43, Con 36
Elder => Primal +10 Str, +10 Dex, +10 Con
Prime => Master +4 Str, +0 Dex, +8 Con

Earth Elder: Str 33, Dex 8, Con 21
Earth Primal: Str 43, Dex 8, Con 31
Elder => Primal +10 Str, +0 Dex, +10 Con

Following the previous progression would give Str 47, Dex 8, Con 35. I'd like to arbitrarily boost the Str and Con, let's say +5 each:

Earth Elemaster: Str 47, Dex 13, Con 40 ?

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Shade said:

I definitely oppose dropping the Dex. These are deities, after all.
We were modeling it off the "Each has the full ability scores of the elemaster, all of which are 75 (+13 modifier)" from the original text, giving the minimum scores of 36 (to retain the +13 modifier).

We might be able to boost the Str and Con a bit more, but if we do, I think we need to boost the Air Elemaster's Dex score likewise.

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freyar said:

Uhh, Dire Charge is always good if it qualifies.

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freyar said:

It needs Improved Initiative as a prereq, so we'd have to swap something - maybe Combat Reflexes?

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freyar said:

Hey, Cleon turned into me!

Yes, drop one of the Epic Prowess feats for Imp Init and add Dire Charge. That looks good.

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freyar said:

"weighs more than mortals care to measure."

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freyar said:

Well, as long as Cleon doesn't want to weigh it.

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