Sneak Attacks Range

StreamOfTheSky · Jan 12, 2011

Andras said:
There's a feat in PHBII called Deadeye shot. To use it, you ready an action to fire a missile at a target that has just been struck by an ally. The target looses his dex bonus against your readied shot. There is no range limit on applying sneak attack from this feat.

This is misleading. You still need to be within sneak attack range in order to sneak attack. And Deadeye Shot doesn't give you a sneak attack when someone is hit in melee. It makes your readied attack catch the foe flatfooted, or makes him lose dex to AC (which isn't always the same thing, in regards to Uncanny Dodge, etc...), I forget. Which means that if you're within range, it should be a sneak attack.

StreamOfTheSky · Jan 12, 2011

Another option if you absolutely refuse to just use frigging Sniper's Eye spell is to beg your DM to import a variant rogue archetype (basically like an alternate class feature) from Pathfiner, the Sniper. Trading Trapsense and Trapfinding for the benefits it grants:

APG said:
Sniper
Some say that the sniper is the worst kind of assassin: a killer who waits silently in the shadows and then strikes from a distance without remorse. Snipers, of course, understand that such protestations about “cowardice” and “honor” regarding their profession are in fact merely the bleatings of sheep fearing the slaughter and pay them no heed. Most snipers take pride in their formidable abilities, which allow them to take life quickly, quietly, and efficiently, then disappear into their surroundings without a trace.

Accuracy (Ex)
At 1st level, a sniper halves all range increment penalties when making ranged attacks with a bow or crossbow.

This ability replaces trapfinding.

Deadly Range (Ex)
At 3rd level, a sniper increases the range at which she can apply her sneak attack damage by 10 feet. This range increases by 10 feet for every 3 levels after 3rd.

This ability replaces trap sense.

TanisFrey · Jan 12, 2011

StreamOfTheSky said:
Well yes, they should BOTH get flanking bonus. Otherwise they're not flanking. Sounds like the rules are just presented unclearly. Yay, RC!

Someone did not proof read the diagram very well. It has a +2 under the name of anyone getting the flanking bonus, then a text block in a corner explaining why they got the bonus. The Orc should have a +2 under his name.

TanisFrey · Jan 12, 2011

frankthedm said:
Because you are not flanking as defined by the game rules.

We allow it because it is in the spirit of OD&D rules. Someone engaged in a melee is focusing their attention on the fight and can loose track of someone circling around to make a surprise attack from an unexpected direction.

Dandu · Jan 12, 2011

That's great for you, but iirc we were discussing DnD 3.5 RAW, imho wtflolbbq.

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