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    Quote Originally Posted by freyar View Post
    I think I'd extend that restriction so that they lose all their special abilities while wearing armor.
    I was thinking of allowing a bit more leniency, something like:

    "A chameleon man can only dimension door if it has light encumbrance, is free to move, and is wearing no armour or light armour with no armour check penalty (provided the chameleon man is proficient in the armour)."

 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleon View Post
    Well we do have a decent excuse for not following WoTC's trend of turning the D&D races with "Man" in their name into "Folk". Since, unlike "Lizard Folk" and the like their D&D stats specify Chameleon Men have no females.
    As the noted philosopher Cookie Monster once opined: "that's good enough for me."

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleon View Post
    I was thinking of allowing a bit more leniency, something like:

    "A chameleon man can only dimension door if it has light encumbrance, is free to move, and is wearing no armour or light armour with no armour check penalty (provided the chameleon man is proficient in the armour)."
    Leave off the armor check penalty bit and I'm for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    As the noted philosopher Cookie Monster once opined: "that's good enough for me."

    Leave off the armor check penalty bit and I'm for it.
    Fine by me...

    Dimension Door (Su): A chameleon man can teleport up to 120 ft. as a standard action, as dimension door (caster level 8th). A chameleon man can only dimension door if it has light encumbrance, is free to move, and is wearing no armour or light armour (provided the chameleon man is proficient in the armour). The ability affects only the chameleon man plus any objects and willing creatures it can carry. The chameleon man never appears within a solid object and can move immediately after teleporting.

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    Updated.

    Skills: 8 ranks

    Feats: 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Skills: 8 ranks
    My (boring) suggestion: 2 ranks each in Hide, Move Silently, Spot, & Survival

    Feats: 1
    Awareness (I know another boring choice)

    BTW: Speed 20' seems rather low for a 7' tall medium humanoid, I'd prefer 30'

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    Going back to the Mystaran Gargantuan template for a minute, I was in the process of putting the template on a creature when I was confronted with the issue of Spell-like Abilities. Should the caster level increase in proportion to the increased HD?

    I assume, in the case of creatures who cast spells as a 10th level wizard (for example) that the creature's caster level wouldn't increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortis View Post
    My (boring) suggestion: 2 ranks each in Hide, Move Silently, Spot, & Survival
    Not bad. We might want to add some Knowledge (nature) as well.

    Chameleon men enjoy watching over old woods and caverns, maintaining the harmony of nature. They are sometimes hunted by lizard men, who fear their ability to vanish. These lizard-kin subsist on crops they cultivate and fish.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mortis View Post
    Awareness (I know another boring choice)
    Maybe Self-Sufficient?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mortis View Post
    BTW: Speed 20' seems rather low for a 7' tall medium humanoid, I'd prefer 30'
    It may stem from this...

    They move with a stride that other races find gangling and awkward.
    Still, I'm not opposed to boosting it to the standard lizardfolk's 30 ft.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mortis View Post
    Going back to the Mystaran Gargantuan template for a minute, I was in the process of putting the template on a creature when I was confronted with the issue of Spell-like Abilities. Should the caster level increase in proportion to the increased HD?

    I assume, in the case of creatures who cast spells as a 10th level wizard (for example) that the creature's caster level wouldn't increase.
    Correct. Templates and basic monster advancment rules rarely improve a creature's caster level for SLAs. I personally feel this is an oversight, but it makes sense here as it's more of a "brute" template.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Not bad. We might want to add some Knowledge (nature) as well.
    Good idea. They'll have a BIG racial bonus in Hide checks due to their chameleon skin, so we can give them default Hide and shift the ranks to Nature:

    Skill Ranks: Hide 0, Knowledge (nature) 2, Move Silently 2, Spot 2, Survival 2

    Hmm, I fancy some Listen too.

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    Maybe Self-Sufficient?
    That'd work, although I'm leaning toward Alertness and splitting the 2 ranks in Spot into Listen 1, Spot 1.

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    Still, I'm not opposed to boosting it to the standard lizardfolk's 30 ft.
    Well if they dimension door to move about maybe they don't use their legs much.

    Only kidding.

    Chameleon Men have move 12/12"/120' in all the BECMI and AD&D incarnations I could find, so ought to have Speed 30 ft. Having a funny-looking nonhuman gait doesn't necessarily mean they're slow.

    Funnily enough, the Lizard Man has move 6 in those earlier editions, so they're the ones that should be slower!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Correct. Templates and basic monster advancment rules rarely improve a creature's caster level for SLAs. I personally feel this is an oversight, but it makes sense here as it's more of a "brute" template.
    What he said.

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    Alertness and Listen 1, Spot 1 appeal.

    Speaking of chameleon skin, did we ever decide upon the Hide bonus it provides?
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    I agree with the feat and skill suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Speaking of chameleon skin, did we ever decide upon the Hide bonus it provides?
    Not that I remember, +4 OK? (although I could go to +8)

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