Converting original D&D and Mystara monsters

Cleon · Dec 18, 2012

freyar said:
If attack/damage means "attack or damage," then yes.

So options like

Attack For every empowerment point expended, the goatling gains a +1 enhancement bonus to its next attack roll (including spells and natural weapons, maximum bonus +5). If the goatling does not make an attack roll within one round, the empowerment point is wasted.

Damage For every one/two?? empowerment point expended, the goatling gains a +1 enhancement bonus to damage rolls (including spells and natural weapons, maximum bonus +5). If the goatling does not make a damage roll within one round, the empowerment point is wasted.

How about making it "within three rounds" for the red bit, to allow for a bit of leeway and homage the original's three round duration?

Also, shouldn't the Damage section have "the goatling gains a +1 enhancement bonus to it next damage roll" instead of the above?

I'm undecided on whether to make it one or two EP for the damage empowerment.

freyar · Dec 23, 2012

OK, I can do within three rounds.

I did mean it's next damage roll, just had a copy/paste glitch. I think I'm ok with cutting the cost for damage down to 1 EP since it's harder to get the damage roll.

I also want to make it more clear that it can't spend an EP on something else and get these benefits.

Attack: The goatling can expend one empowerment point to gain a +1 enhancement bonus to its next attack roll (including spells and natural weapons, maximum bonus +5). If the goatling does not make an attack roll within three rounds, the empowerment point is wasted.
Damage: The goatling can expend one empowerment point to gain a +1 enhancement bonus to damage rolls (including spells and natural weapons, maximum bonus +5). If the goatling does not make a damage roll within three rounds, the empowerment point is wasted.

How's that?

Cleon · Dec 23, 2012

freyar said:
OK, I can do within three rounds. I did mean it's next damage roll, just had a copy/paste glitch. I think I'm ok with cutting the cost for damage down to 1 EP since it's harder to get the damage roll. I also want to make it more clear that it can't spend an EP on something else and get these benefits.

Attack: The goatling can expend one empowerment point to gain a +1 enhancement bonus to its next attack roll (including spells and natural weapons, maximum bonus +5). If the goatling does not make an attack roll within three rounds, the empowerment point is wasted.

Damage: The goatling can expend one empowerment point to gain a +1 enhancement bonus to damage rolls (including spells and natural weapons, maximum bonus +5). If the goatling does not make a damage roll within three rounds, the empowerment point is wasted.

How's that?

The wording might allow for the bonus to apply to multiple damage rolls. I was thinking:

Attack: The goatling can expend one empowerment point to gain a +1 enhancement bonus to its next attack roll (including spells and natural weapons, maximum bonus +5). If the goatling does not make an attack roll within three rounds, the empowerment point is wasted.
Damage: The goatling can expend one empowerment point to gain a +1 enhancement bonus to its next damage roll (including spells and natural weapons, maximum bonus +5). If the goatling does not make a damage roll within three rounds, the empowerment point is wasted.

freyar · Dec 31, 2012

Yeah, that's what I meant to type, must just have forgotten to make the correction.

Next one is an +1 AC boost with a 2 EP cost. I'm ok with that lasting 3 rounds, I think, but I'm not sure how I'd type the bonus. Circumstance? Well, here's a draft:

Armor Class: The goatling can expend two empowerment points to gain a +1 circumstance ?? bonus to armor class for three ?? rounds.

Cleon · Dec 31, 2012

freyar said:
Yeah, that's what I meant to type, must just have forgotten to make the correction.

I'll update the Goatling Working Draft so we can keep track of where we are with the conversion.

freyar said:
Next one is an +1 AC boost with a 2 EP cost. I'm ok with that lasting 3 rounds, I think, but I'm not sure how I'd type the bonus. Circumstance? Well, here's a draft:

Armor Class: The goatling can expend two empowerment points to gain a +1 circumstance ?? bonus to armor class for three ?? rounds.

A more important question is does the AC bonus increase its armour bonus or natural armour bonus, or is it a more exotic bonus like a deflection bonus?

Basically, do we want it to increase touch AC?

As for whether to make it a circumstance bonus, I'd rather make most or all of the Discerp bonuses enhancement, partially for consistency and partially to keep down stacking.

freyar · Jan 2, 2013

Well, if it's an enhancement bonus, then that's just a typical magical bonus to AC, which presumably (a) does not increase touch AC (I think) and (b) does not stack with an enhancement bonus on the goatling's armor (but does with the shield, as per usual armor enhancement bonus). Does that work?

Cleon · Jan 2, 2013

freyar said:
Well, if it's an enhancement bonus, then that's just a typical magical bonus to AC, which presumably (a) does not increase touch AC (I think) and (b) does not stack with an enhancement bonus on the goatling's armor (but does with the shield, as per usual armor enhancement bonus). Does that work?

Hmm, well most advanced goatlings are likely to have magic armour, so an enhancement to armour bonus would be of limited use unless they're spending lots of EPs on it.

The cost is pretty expensive if we keep the 2 EPs per +1 too.

How about we make it an enhancement bonus to natural armour, like an amulet of natural armour? That'd sort of make sense (as the goatling is empowering an aspect of itself, not something its carrying), and it would still cut down on some stacking.

freyar · Jan 4, 2013

That would work for me.

Armor Class: The goatling can expend two empowerment points to gain a +1 enhancement bonus to its natural armor for three rounds.

How's that?

Cleon · Jan 4, 2013

freyar said:
That would work for me.

Armor Class: The goatling can expend two empowerment points to gain a +1 enhancement bonus to its natural armor for three rounds.

How's that?

Updating the Goatling Working Draft.

freyar · Jan 6, 2013

The next item as given originally is

Saving Throws: The goatling can expend two empowerment points to gain a +1 enhancement bonus to all saving throws for three rounds.

I have a feeling that +1 to all saves for three rounds is a bit too powerful. Maybe make it apply to only one type of save? Or, what's probably easier, cut the duration to 1 round.

Do we need to go back and put a max of how large a bonus can apply for each type of EP use?