(IR) Preparations for the IR, Thread 2
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Edena_of_Neith
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Do you all see the last post I made?
I have just looked at all of the posts (all 12 pages of them on my word processor) made prior to my post.
I have modified the Lists again, to account for claims.
It is still unclear to me whether the Peoples of the Northern Lortmils are contested.
I know GnomeWorks is claiming it, and I know Lynux claimed it.
Has Lynus given up his claim, or is he contesting?
- - -
Now - to answer a few other letters, in the order in which they occurred:
All the Planar claims are noted, and I have put them on the Lists.
Undead claims are noted, and put on the Lists.
What are the Xill? What alignment? Where do they come from?
What plane do the Planar Rakshasa come from?
Acererak, you were successful in your efforts to claim the demons and the xeg-yi.
Zelda - I wish to be e-mailed questions, and comments. That way, more posts can be put on the main thread, which is limited to 200 posts.
Forsaken One - the robots in the Barrier Peaks do not have a society per se. They are currently mindlessly maintaining themselves and creating new copies of themselves.
It is really not possible to gain anything from them. They won't teach anyone anything, and they will attack intruders.
What pieces of high technology one could take away from there, won't make a difference in your Power Level.
Now, raiding the City of the Gods will make a difference to your Power Level.
But remember the consequences of such raiding (see the rule on City of the Gods in the Rules Post.)
The robots of S3 can obtain a purpose and drive.
You can give them one.
But they really can't aid you in advancing technologically - there are too few of them, too much of their technology was smashed when they crash-landed, and most of them are mindless automatons anyways.
Turrosh Mak said:
Who's Industrial Revolution Is It Anyway
Hosted by Drew Carry
This is a game where the points don't matter and power levels are awarded to whomever makes me laugh the hardest...
Heh. LOL! Good one, Turrosh. Although Power Levels do count in this game ...
Turrosh, thanks for archiving the IRs.
It's a long read, folks, what he has archived!
As you will see in reading, it was sheer chaos and anarchy. But it was fun.
Let's hope this IR is fun, and does not flop like a dying frog ...
Kalanyr - I'm still working on Player Characters.
I haven't yet looked at the Player Character thread.
I will. And I'll give PLs to each PC.
Turrosh Mak - your claim to the Githzerai and Earth Elementals was successful. They are coming to help you.
The Dao come, after a long period of thinking it over.
Creamstreak - again, I hope you wish to join us.
Maudlin posted:
Why is having the maximum starting power allowed under the rules a goal in the first place? If, in turn one, all the evil conqueror factions ally (as they seem inclined to do) that will make one big uneatable force with over 350 PL, a growth rate of over 50 and the objective of 'destroy'. Everyone else would then be forced to also ally with each other or the IR would be over by turn 3.
(this is seperate from everyone temporarily working
towards a common goal, like kicking the snot out of
uppity archliches, of course )
I admit, I did not foresee this.
I saw each power starting in the 20 to 40 point range.
Ah, how things change.
Please mind you, devastated countries do not produce PL (or, at least, they don't produce as much.)
If you'all go to all out war on Turn One, and state mass devastation of each other's nations, the PL on the board is going to drop considerably.
Also, if you get powerful enough, and the combined strength of several allied powers reaches 1,000, the Torilians are going to see you as a threat.
They just might decide to do something about that threat.
Please remember that the Torilians can enter the Planar Arms Race, and they are already in the Magical Arms Race and the Technological Arms Race.
Their PL will continue to increase each Turn.
Kalanyr: I gave you the Neogi of Realmspace, since it made more sense than the Yuan-Ti empire (which is way over on another continent, and difficult to access except by magic.)
The Lost Elves of the Adri Forest cannot be claimed until someone smashes their way into Adri Forest and states they are attempting to undo the Curse, which is being produced by an artifact.
GnomeWorks currently holds the Adri Forest - he will not have a chance to state any attempt until Turn One, if he wishes to attempt at all.
Kalanyr, the Sea League will not join. The drow frighten them off.
Kalanyr, you have close to 100 points of PL now. Check your claims on the Claims List.
Maudlin said:
That's why I'm officially announcing that on the 19th, I'm contesting every nation that seems pressganged into its current alliance. Civil war, baby!
Maudlin, you can do that. Yes, you can do that.
However, when EVERY OTHER power in the IR descends on you like a tidal wave, don't blame me!
Kalanyr said:
I'm willing to drop things for new players and/or good reasons. Besides less power in nations means more power for an NPC Take Kalanyr vs the God Emporer for one.
An Alliance would be good 200 is enough to actually harm Vecna,of course it makes us a target for 10th and 11th level magics.
Mind you, Acererak has allied with Vecna. You have double trouble now. (wicked chuckle.)
Cheers on your post concerning new players.
I hope, when I get back to the post, and read the replies made since my last post (not this one) that new players will have joined!
Forsaken One - I have once more placed your claim to the Hold of the Sea Princes on the board.
That is now a contested claim, as Lynux is claiming it also.
Spelljammers can sail anywhere in Greyspace.
They can easily sail through an atmosphere.
They can land and take off.
They can be used as aerial bombardment platforms.
They can land and disgorge troops.
They are altogether very versatile.
If someone has laid claim to one of the spelljamming races, it means basically that you can transport large parts of your army anywhere on Oerth, in any given Turn.
Some powers, like the Solistarim, already have access to spelljammers, even though they have not claimed any of the spelljamming races.
IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ
William said:
Edena:
I received an e-mail from Forrester answering my
questions about his continued participation in the IR thread as the representative of the United Commonwealth of Toril:
Sorry I haven't gotten back to you -- I have been monstrously, monstrously busy at work. Brought a ton of stuff home to work on this weekend .
As long as the UC isn't immensely involved (i.e., one post a day will be sufficient), I would be happy to represent the UC of Toril.
And it looks like you guys are going to need all the help you can get .
So, the UC will be a player.
(Yes, they are now a player, and Forrester is now in the lists.
This definitely throws a wrench into the gears, since a 1,000 point power is on the boards.
All I can say is ... leave it alone, and hope it leaves you alone.
Or, do as the Wanderer says, and go after it. But don't blame me for the consequences.)
Serpenteye (and Mr. Draco later in another way) said:
Serpenteye
Peace
The Dark Union hereby extend an offer of non-agression to all powers on Oerth, except for Vecna and those who allies or joins with our lesser neighbours the Iron league and Grandwood. Those who join these forementioned powers will find themselves with a very powerful enemy.
Interesting. Blackmail. NOW I know why nobody has claimed the Iron League.
This does not mean the Iron League won't ask to join one of the Powers, though!
They may just ask to join you, GnomeWorks, or you, William, or even you, Darkness.
These are good people.
Will you allow them to be crushed, helpless and unaided, by the evil forces of the Dark Union?
This is the kind of thing that would sway the good Planars, by the way, into coming and helping you ... were you to take up the cause of the Iron League and Grandwood.
Kas is now a Player Character.
I have removed him from the Dark Union, and placed him in the Player Character category for Mr. Draco.
Serpenteye, that means he won't show up on your list at all.
I have just looked at all of the posts (all 12 pages of them on my word processor) made prior to my post.
I have modified the Lists again, to account for claims.
It is still unclear to me whether the Peoples of the Northern Lortmils are contested.
I know GnomeWorks is claiming it, and I know Lynux claimed it.
Has Lynus given up his claim, or is he contesting?
- - -
Now - to answer a few other letters, in the order in which they occurred:
All the Planar claims are noted, and I have put them on the Lists.
Undead claims are noted, and put on the Lists.
What are the Xill? What alignment? Where do they come from?
What plane do the Planar Rakshasa come from?
Acererak, you were successful in your efforts to claim the demons and the xeg-yi.
Zelda - I wish to be e-mailed questions, and comments. That way, more posts can be put on the main thread, which is limited to 200 posts.
Forsaken One - the robots in the Barrier Peaks do not have a society per se. They are currently mindlessly maintaining themselves and creating new copies of themselves.
It is really not possible to gain anything from them. They won't teach anyone anything, and they will attack intruders.
What pieces of high technology one could take away from there, won't make a difference in your Power Level.
Now, raiding the City of the Gods will make a difference to your Power Level.
But remember the consequences of such raiding (see the rule on City of the Gods in the Rules Post.)
The robots of S3 can obtain a purpose and drive.
You can give them one.
But they really can't aid you in advancing technologically - there are too few of them, too much of their technology was smashed when they crash-landed, and most of them are mindless automatons anyways.
Turrosh Mak said:
Who's Industrial Revolution Is It Anyway
Hosted by Drew Carry
This is a game where the points don't matter and power levels are awarded to whomever makes me laugh the hardest...
Heh. LOL! Good one, Turrosh. Although Power Levels do count in this game ...
Turrosh, thanks for archiving the IRs.
It's a long read, folks, what he has archived!
As you will see in reading, it was sheer chaos and anarchy. But it was fun.
Let's hope this IR is fun, and does not flop like a dying frog ...
Kalanyr - I'm still working on Player Characters.
I haven't yet looked at the Player Character thread.
I will. And I'll give PLs to each PC.
Turrosh Mak - your claim to the Githzerai and Earth Elementals was successful. They are coming to help you.
The Dao come, after a long period of thinking it over.
Creamstreak - again, I hope you wish to join us.
Maudlin posted:
Why is having the maximum starting power allowed under the rules a goal in the first place? If, in turn one, all the evil conqueror factions ally (as they seem inclined to do) that will make one big uneatable force with over 350 PL, a growth rate of over 50 and the objective of 'destroy'. Everyone else would then be forced to also ally with each other or the IR would be over by turn 3.
(this is seperate from everyone temporarily working
towards a common goal, like kicking the snot out of
uppity archliches, of course )
I admit, I did not foresee this.
I saw each power starting in the 20 to 40 point range.
Ah, how things change.
Please mind you, devastated countries do not produce PL (or, at least, they don't produce as much.)
If you'all go to all out war on Turn One, and state mass devastation of each other's nations, the PL on the board is going to drop considerably.
Also, if you get powerful enough, and the combined strength of several allied powers reaches 1,000, the Torilians are going to see you as a threat.
They just might decide to do something about that threat.
Please remember that the Torilians can enter the Planar Arms Race, and they are already in the Magical Arms Race and the Technological Arms Race.
Their PL will continue to increase each Turn.
Kalanyr: I gave you the Neogi of Realmspace, since it made more sense than the Yuan-Ti empire (which is way over on another continent, and difficult to access except by magic.)
The Lost Elves of the Adri Forest cannot be claimed until someone smashes their way into Adri Forest and states they are attempting to undo the Curse, which is being produced by an artifact.
GnomeWorks currently holds the Adri Forest - he will not have a chance to state any attempt until Turn One, if he wishes to attempt at all.
Kalanyr, the Sea League will not join. The drow frighten them off.
Kalanyr, you have close to 100 points of PL now. Check your claims on the Claims List.
Maudlin said:
That's why I'm officially announcing that on the 19th, I'm contesting every nation that seems pressganged into its current alliance. Civil war, baby!
Maudlin, you can do that. Yes, you can do that.
However, when EVERY OTHER power in the IR descends on you like a tidal wave, don't blame me!
Kalanyr said:
I'm willing to drop things for new players and/or good reasons. Besides less power in nations means more power for an NPC Take Kalanyr vs the God Emporer for one.
An Alliance would be good 200 is enough to actually harm Vecna,of course it makes us a target for 10th and 11th level magics.
Mind you, Acererak has allied with Vecna. You have double trouble now. (wicked chuckle.)
Cheers on your post concerning new players.
I hope, when I get back to the post, and read the replies made since my last post (not this one) that new players will have joined!
Forsaken One - I have once more placed your claim to the Hold of the Sea Princes on the board.
That is now a contested claim, as Lynux is claiming it also.
Spelljammers can sail anywhere in Greyspace.
They can easily sail through an atmosphere.
They can land and take off.
They can be used as aerial bombardment platforms.
They can land and disgorge troops.
They are altogether very versatile.
If someone has laid claim to one of the spelljamming races, it means basically that you can transport large parts of your army anywhere on Oerth, in any given Turn.
Some powers, like the Solistarim, already have access to spelljammers, even though they have not claimed any of the spelljamming races.
IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ
William said:
Edena:
I received an e-mail from Forrester answering my
questions about his continued participation in the IR thread as the representative of the United Commonwealth of Toril:
Sorry I haven't gotten back to you -- I have been monstrously, monstrously busy at work. Brought a ton of stuff home to work on this weekend .
As long as the UC isn't immensely involved (i.e., one post a day will be sufficient), I would be happy to represent the UC of Toril.
And it looks like you guys are going to need all the help you can get .
So, the UC will be a player.
(Yes, they are now a player, and Forrester is now in the lists.
This definitely throws a wrench into the gears, since a 1,000 point power is on the boards.
All I can say is ... leave it alone, and hope it leaves you alone.
Or, do as the Wanderer says, and go after it. But don't blame me for the consequences.)
Serpenteye (and Mr. Draco later in another way) said:
Serpenteye
Peace
The Dark Union hereby extend an offer of non-agression to all powers on Oerth, except for Vecna and those who allies or joins with our lesser neighbours the Iron league and Grandwood. Those who join these forementioned powers will find themselves with a very powerful enemy.
Interesting. Blackmail. NOW I know why nobody has claimed the Iron League.
This does not mean the Iron League won't ask to join one of the Powers, though!
They may just ask to join you, GnomeWorks, or you, William, or even you, Darkness.
These are good people.
Will you allow them to be crushed, helpless and unaided, by the evil forces of the Dark Union?
This is the kind of thing that would sway the good Planars, by the way, into coming and helping you ... were you to take up the cause of the Iron League and Grandwood.
Kas is now a Player Character.
I have removed him from the Dark Union, and placed him in the Player Character category for Mr. Draco.
Serpenteye, that means he won't show up on your list at all.
Edena_of_Neith
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First of all, I'm still on vacation (if one can call it that.)
Just trying to make my job easier once I get back, by updating the Lists as I can (it takes time to do that ...)
Williams is still moderator until I return.
Williams, thank you for helping me!
Black Omega - Williams has claimed the Circle of Eight.
The claim is now contested between you and him.
Concerning the speed of the Flying Citadels and Ships of the Sky League of the Isle of the Phoenix:
The ships of the Sky League can make 40 mph in good weather, maybe 60 mph if a powerful wind is at their back.
The Flying Citadels can cruise along at about 20 mph.
Spelljammers can roar through an atmosphere at 200 mph (although the crew had better stay belowdecks if it does.)
Spelljammers can roar through an atmosphere at 100 mph if the crew is on-deck.
Most spelljammers, in order to cover great distances, will leave the atmosphere and enter near-space, flying at thousands of miles an hour around the globe until they are over their destination.
Then they will slow down, and descend through the atmosphere.
To William - I am not back yet. Just trying to make things easier for you by doing my share.
Again, thanks for the help!
I have to go to the Player Character thread, have a look at it, and assign all the PCs Power Level values, and put them on the Lists Post.
Darkness, your claim to Erypt is noted.
As Williams has pointed our, the claim is contested with Lynux.
Williams, Mr. Draco's Planar claims were successful (except the Xill, which are in question.)
Williams, note that you and Black Omega are contesting the Circle of Eight.
Again, I need more information on the Xill and where the Rakshasa make their home plane.
Mr. Draco's claim to the Xill is uncertain until then.
Just trying to make my job easier once I get back, by updating the Lists as I can (it takes time to do that ...)
Williams is still moderator until I return.
Williams, thank you for helping me!
Black Omega - Williams has claimed the Circle of Eight.
The claim is now contested between you and him.
Concerning the speed of the Flying Citadels and Ships of the Sky League of the Isle of the Phoenix:
The ships of the Sky League can make 40 mph in good weather, maybe 60 mph if a powerful wind is at their back.
The Flying Citadels can cruise along at about 20 mph.
Spelljammers can roar through an atmosphere at 200 mph (although the crew had better stay belowdecks if it does.)
Spelljammers can roar through an atmosphere at 100 mph if the crew is on-deck.
Most spelljammers, in order to cover great distances, will leave the atmosphere and enter near-space, flying at thousands of miles an hour around the globe until they are over their destination.
Then they will slow down, and descend through the atmosphere.
To William - I am not back yet. Just trying to make things easier for you by doing my share.
Again, thanks for the help!
I have to go to the Player Character thread, have a look at it, and assign all the PCs Power Level values, and put them on the Lists Post.
Darkness, your claim to Erypt is noted.
As Williams has pointed our, the claim is contested with Lynux.
Williams, Mr. Draco's Planar claims were successful (except the Xill, which are in question.)
Williams, note that you and Black Omega are contesting the Circle of Eight.
Again, I need more information on the Xill and where the Rakshasa make their home plane.
Mr. Draco's claim to the Xill is uncertain until then.
Black Omega
First Post
Edena_of_Neith said:
Interesting, since he was the one who mentioned to me that it was in my area. We'll just have to have a 'chat' about this.
Maudlin
First Post
Don't worry, I'll stay in those territories only long enough to sow the fields with salt and attach motion-sensitive boobytraps to all the inhabitantsEdena_of_Neith said:Maudlin, you can do that. Yes, you can do that.
However, when EVERY OTHER power in the IR descends on you like a tidal wave, don't blame me!
(why was Space, Above and Beyond cancelled anyway?) Nono, seriously, I retracted that claim, it's not up to me to say how other people should play. I'm just concerned about what you so inimitably called the Alpha-Strike Hmm.. I've posted my strong desire to do so, and mailed Bonedagger about it, but I've still not received a reply to either. Obviously, if Vecna has been rendered comatose by the rigours of timetravel, it is not in Acererak's best interest to wave his flag in the face of a united Oerth (which has now grown to about 100 times his own power). If agelong unlife teaches anything, it is pragmatismEdena_of_Neith said:
GnomeWorks
Adventurer
Edena
Lynux has given up the Northern Lortmils, and then I claimed them.
Lynux has given up the Northern Lortmils, and then I claimed them.
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The Forsaken One
Explorer
Edena I'd claimed the Jamming Illithid and the Neogi a whole while back. So the neogi would be contested between Kalanyr and me. I discussed this matter with kalanyr and we came to the agreement that he relinquishes his claim over the neogi and he reclaims the Yuan-Ti.
Also I'm claiming the Unseelie for Planar arms race. Why? To come aid their realmed kin offcourse with the prospects of crushing and exterminating those horrid light and love loving kin of theirs!
My claims now would correctly be:
FORSAKEN ONE
Modrons (The Planars of Mechanus, lawful neutral) PL see the Planar Arms Race
Formians (The Planars of Mechanus, lawful neutral) PL see the Planar Arms Race
Unseelie of the plane of fairy (every type of Dark Faerie, evil) PL see the Planar Arms Race.
Illithid of Greyspace (spelljamming illithid, slaves of every type, evil) PL 25
Neogi of Greyspace (spelljamming neogi, their umber hulk servants, slaves of every type, evil) PL 30
Unseelie of the Flanaess (every type of Dark Faerie, evil) PL 13
Hold of the Sea Princes (Suel humans, oeridian humans, dwarves, slaves of all types, neutral and evil) PL 4 *
Formians of the Southern Hellfurnaces (Formian Giant Ants, lawful neutral) PL 7
Kuo-Toa of the Hellfurnaces and Crystalmists (kuo-toa, slaves of all types, evil) PL 5
Illithid of the Hellfurnaces and Crystalmists (illithid, slaves of all types, evil) PL 3
Trogolodytes of the Hellfurnaces and Crystalmists (trogolodytes, slaves of all types, evil) PL 3
Kuo-Toa of the Underdark (kuo-toa, slaves of all types, evil) PL 8
So I hope you edit the claims list as soon as you can for me and kalanyr.
Also I'm claiming the Unseelie for Planar arms race. Why? To come aid their realmed kin offcourse with the prospects of crushing and exterminating those horrid light and love loving kin of theirs!
My claims now would correctly be:
FORSAKEN ONE
Modrons (The Planars of Mechanus, lawful neutral) PL see the Planar Arms Race
Formians (The Planars of Mechanus, lawful neutral) PL see the Planar Arms Race
Unseelie of the plane of fairy (every type of Dark Faerie, evil) PL see the Planar Arms Race.
Illithid of Greyspace (spelljamming illithid, slaves of every type, evil) PL 25
Neogi of Greyspace (spelljamming neogi, their umber hulk servants, slaves of every type, evil) PL 30
Unseelie of the Flanaess (every type of Dark Faerie, evil) PL 13
Hold of the Sea Princes (Suel humans, oeridian humans, dwarves, slaves of all types, neutral and evil) PL 4 *
Formians of the Southern Hellfurnaces (Formian Giant Ants, lawful neutral) PL 7
Kuo-Toa of the Hellfurnaces and Crystalmists (kuo-toa, slaves of all types, evil) PL 5
Illithid of the Hellfurnaces and Crystalmists (illithid, slaves of all types, evil) PL 3
Trogolodytes of the Hellfurnaces and Crystalmists (trogolodytes, slaves of all types, evil) PL 3
Kuo-Toa of the Underdark (kuo-toa, slaves of all types, evil) PL 8
So I hope you edit the claims list as soon as you can for me and kalanyr.
Black Omega
First Post
lynux said:
The offer does sounds interesting. In the interestests of pursuing peace the Coalition of Light and Shadow (Seelie Court, Highfolk, etc etc) might be interested in this, with out interests extending to the Wolf and Tiger Nomads. Weak factions but it does secure the borders.
The Forsaken One
Explorer
Omega, look what nice new neighbours you're getting. Wouldn't really call that secure the borders You've got a nice little buffer now to prevent you from the first blows from above.
You've got a nice little buffer now to prevent you from the first blows from above.Edena_of_Neith
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Kalanyr, the Neogi were already claimed, so I gave you the Yuan-Ti Empire, as you requested.
You're pretty close to 100 now (but not quite there.)
Lynux, you're at 102 in Power Level. You must relinquish some claim, to go to 100 or below.
The Gnomish Sidewheelers of Greyspace are contested.
Erypt is contested.
The Hold of the Sea Princes is contested.
You're pretty close to 100 now (but not quite there.)
Lynux, you're at 102 in Power Level. You must relinquish some claim, to go to 100 or below.
The Gnomish Sidewheelers of Greyspace are contested.
Erypt is contested.
The Hold of the Sea Princes is contested.
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