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    Joe and Erik: good stuff!

    I did look up Advent, I will probably add to the first thread. For this one, I really just wanted to indicate that a whole new kind of game had spun off...

    Das Schwarze Auge is certainly the non-english RPG I have heard of the most. I will probably add. As for Spawn...this raises the question of putting in other notoriously bad RPGs. Its a hard call, by the early 80's, there were already 100's of RPGs, and of course some were quite bad. And they kept and keep coming. Thankfully they have mostly been forgotten. But I guess not all have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerraDave View Post
    I did look up Advent, I will probably add to the first thread. For this one, I really just wanted to indicate that a whole new kind of game had spun off...
    I would save "a whole new kind of game" for Rogue (precursor to nethack, angbang, and the modern day dwarf fortress). The original author of Colossal Cave was not influenced by D&D. The author who turned it into Advent probably was influenced by wargaming and perhaps D&D. The Zork port was definitely influenced by D&D and RPGs in general. But you have to mention the earlier incarnations or it just looks like Infocom made a solo RPG text adventure from scratch.

    Rogue of course created the roguelike game in 1980 and is heavily influenced by D&D. Dwarf Fortress is the GTA:IV of roguelike games.
    Rogue: Rogue (video game) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Dwarf Fortress: Dwarf Fortress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Additionally, MUDs first came about in 1980: MUD - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Finally, probably the first graphic CRPG was Temple of Apshai in 1979 beating Akalabeth: World of Doom (precursor to Ultima) by a few months. Your call on their importance. But personally I think Rogue is more important than Zork.
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    I appreciate all the feedback, but given this momentous period in RPGs, I would expect a little more dicussion...

    In the chance anyone reads this post, I will suggest some topics:

    *The trials and tribulations of Gary Gygax
    *BADD-O-Rama
    *All those genres (ie military...)

    Anything else that might strike you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerraDave View Post
    I appreciate all the feedback, but given this momentous period in RPGs, I would expect a little more dicussion...

    In the chance anyone reads this post, I will suggest some topics:

    *The trials and tribulations of Gary Gygax
    *BADD-O-Rama
    *All those genres (ie military...)

    Anything else that might strike you?
    I'd hazard a guess that there's not as much discussion as there was for your first history thread (pre-1979) because more of us were around and paying attention in the 1980's and saw it all for ourselves - whether we wanted to or not - and you've pretty much got it right.

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    Could be. Though that could have still kicked off "oh, I remember playing that" posts.

    And still, cyborg commando, dragonraid, tom hanks...nothing?
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    I guess it should go to its own webpage at some point. If I had a plan, I suppose that would be it.

    Edit: Though I am sure, more people will see it here.
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    Great stuff, TerraDave - I'd XP you but I have to spread the love first.

    One minor quibble - you seem to say that Jorune had no elves when it was actually Talislanta.

    But what a stroll down memory lane! One thing that came to mind while reading through this was how much AD&D changed after Gary Gygax left. I mean, I usually think of the difference between 1E and 2E but it really seems that the tonal shift happened with Gygax's departure in late 1985.

    That Cyborg Commando picture is pretty funny.

    I assume Part 3 will be 1990-1999, Part 4 2000-2007, and Part 5 2008+? When can we expect those? Hopefully more quickly than one every year!

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