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    Paizo Copyright Issues at Obsidian Portal?

    So, it being July, I'm a little late checking on June's Campaign of the Month at Obsidian Portal. It sounded pretty cool, so thought I should check it out. A little late for sure, it's no longer open to the public.

    Apparently, Paizo issued a C&D to the campaign owner, due to what he describes as tiny thumbnail images of item cards being handed out to his players (check the comments section at the bottom of the interview).

    Seriously? If that is all there is to the offending material, tiny, unusable images, then this seems pretty silly to me. Sounds to me to along the lines of the good ol' days at TSR, or White Wolf's current draconian measures regarding use of their IP.

    I like the guys and gals at Paizo, they do good work. But this, I don't like, just seems very player-unfriendly.

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    Paizo is a company first and that's one of the reasons they are a successful company. I don't see anything wrong with them protecting their properties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crothian View Post
    Paizo is a company first and that's one of the reasons they are a successful company. I don't see anything wrong with them protecting their properties.
    I think this statement cuts too broad. Paizo is successful because they produced a high quality product but also differentiated themselves from WotC by treating their customers more like partners than customers. People dug that, it earned them immense loyalty, and that, in my opinion, drove their success more than the quality of their products. From the little bit of info we have, this seems out of sorts for Paizo because it does seem a bit corporateish (highlighting how a product can be used in a personal game via a thumbnail of said product? That sounds like free advertising). However, due to their immense goodwill, I'm more than willing to reserve judgment until more info is available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeroDm View Post
    From the little bit of info we have, this seems out of sorts for Paizo because it does seem a bit corporateish (highlighting how a product can be used in a personal game via a thumbnail of said product? That sounds like free advertising).
    There's a big difference between using a product in a personal campaign - and posting it publicly on the internet as part of a personal campaign. You shouldn't really think of it as free advertising like you would other word of mouth or textual descriptions that do not include actual copyrighted items.
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    There are definitely times when that line blurs. If we are talking about an accessory where the utility is derived from its physical form or a photo where the value is derived from its visual form, then sub-par reproductions of those doesn't diminish or cannibalize the original IP. My interpretation of this situation puts it in that later category.

    There is actually a really interesting parallel to this situation going on right now in the video game industry.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib7-vSrp6y8[/ame]

    Edit because I didn't realize a link to youtube auto embeds the video. I am a noob.
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    I'd like to see a sample of the work that was pulled before making an opinion.
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    Let me be the first to point out that there is probably more to this than the one side we're hearing from the DM, and how about let's withhold judgment until we have a better picture of what's going on here.

    Was the Obsidian Portal page in question making use of the Pathfinder Community Use Policy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannager View Post
    Let me be the first to point out that there is probably more to this than the one side we're hearing from the DM, and how about let's withhold judgment until we have a better picture of what's going on here.

    Was the Obsidian Portal page in question making use of the Pathfinder Community Use Policy?
    Well, kinda the second...I did go out of my way to say, "If what he says is true." But that's all we really have to go on.

    The guy has his own RPG company. I'm sure he understands that Paizo needs to protect their IP, so I'm more likely to lean his direction than that of the bored corperate lawyer with the itchy trigger finger.

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    I dunno, if it is tiny and unusable, don't use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Anondson View Post
    I dunno, if it is tiny and unusable, don't use it.
    Unusable as a proxy for what Paizo sells.

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