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Wednesday, 6th July, 2011, 09:52 PM #71
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Wednesday, 6th July, 2011, 10:08 PM #73
Magsman (Lvl 14)
I'm just a small-time artist and cartographer and I have, on occasion found one of my maps posted on a Deviant Art account, and once on a public RPG site, I asked them to be removed and it was done.
I have no sympathy for anyone who posts art online that they do not have permission to do so. Its wrong and shouldn't be done.
Heck I even have CC licensed stuff intended to be shared and used, but in that share license its CC-BA-NC. The middle initials stands for "by Artist" meaning, when you do share the art of my creation, you have to say who did the work. When someone posts art and not mention the creator of said art. They are 'stealing'.
I'm not a lawyer. I'm saying good people don't take other people's stuff without permission (in the world where we're all supposed to treat each other fairly.) Simple.
Wednesday, 6th July, 2011, 10:46 PM #74
Enchanter (Lvl 12)
Apart from the difference between screenshot LPs (in which written narratives and selected screencaptures form the basis) and video LPs (in which recorded video and voice overs form the basis), there are also variations in the amount of viewer participation.
There are some that have none - in which case, you get something very like a walk-through; do a YouTube search for Helloween to see a usually-pretty-funny British guy play through some nominally scary games.
There are some which are pretty heavily involved - I'm taking part in one right now which is playing through the entire chain of Paradox's grand strategy games; we started with Crusader Kings, and are now into Europa Universalis; eventually, we'll head off to Victoria, then Hearts of Iron. Each participant takes a turn as a ruling head of state (we started from the last heir of Charlemagne), and when he dies, the next person in line plays their turn as his heir.
The earlier-linked X-Com LP uses posters from a game-focused message board as the troopers in a notoriously difficult and blood-bathy strategy and tactics game, and the posting habits / persona of each person is reflected in the way Fishman, the LPer, writes out the story of Earth's fight against alien invaders.
The link I posted earlier for the Demon's Souls "walk-through" walks a middle line, where audience input determines the order in which he plays the game, but the decisions within each play session is his own.
So, no, I would not paint with a broad brush and call a Let's Play a "walkthrough" by definition, and the amount of "footage," for lack of a better term, varies wildly between styles.
But, seriously, you don't need to read through the entire example I provided; a short skim of any of them will give you a much better understanding of what an LP is.
EDIT: I wouldn't call an LP of EUIII, such as the one I'm playing, a walkthrough of the game any more than I would call Sepulchrave's Story Hours a walkthrough for D&D.
Last edited by Patryn of Elvenshae; Wednesday, 6th July, 2011 at 11:04 PM.
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Thursday, 7th July, 2011, 12:24 AM #75
Guide (Lvl 11)
Has this mysterious C&D been posted?
If not, might as well say it's drama queen martyrdom fantasy . . .
My Greyhawk cartography project. http://admundfortgeographer.deviantart.com
Thursday, 7th July, 2011, 12:41 AM #76
Hypocrisy would only be involved if the same poster posted outraged comments in regards to WotC protecting IP, and supportive comments in regards to Paizo doing the same thing. Or vice versa.
So if you can find a quote from anyone in this thread who has posted the opposite view in a different thread in regards to another company, then yes, that might be hypocrisy....for that one poster. Or it could be the circumstances were different enough to warrant two opposing views.
In any case, its quite possible you're talking about two entirely different groups of Paizo and WotC fans--some who would defend a company's right to protect IP, and some who would become outraged. Implying that there's some overlap in those groups that would indict the whole fanbase for one game or the other? Strange behavior for someone with no horse in the race.
Thursday, 7th July, 2011, 01:11 AM #77
Thursday, 7th July, 2011, 01:11 AM #78
In my experience Paizo has a fairly generous Community Use Policy.
Thursday, 7th July, 2011, 01:12 AM #79
Thursday, 7th July, 2011, 01:12 AM #80