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Thread: WotC's Annual Xmas Layoffs
Thursday, 15th December, 2011, 03:37 PM #71
Hydra (Lvl 25)
It would be interesting to see someone with the proper marketing and financial savvy do a workup - in these days of the internet, what's the damage done to their corporate reputation by doing a regular round of firing every holiday season?
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Thursday, 15th December, 2011, 03:43 PM #72
Cutpurse (Lvl 5)
Last edited by Harley Stroh; Thursday, 15th December, 2011 at 03:48 PM.
Thursday, 15th December, 2011, 03:56 PM #73
Spellbinder (Lvl 16)
I agree. Granted we are a small subset within an already small niche that probably pay any attention to the people actually working at WotC. But I would have to think it isn't good to look like Ebenezer Scrooge every holiday season on some level.Originally Posted by Umbran
I don't think anyone likes layoffs and there probably isn't really a good time for them for those impacted. But in the run up to the holiday season just seems especially a worse than usual choice, especially as an annual event.
Thursday, 15th December, 2011, 03:56 PM #74
Orcus on an Off-Day (Lvl 22)
I suspect the impetus here is coming from Hasbro rather than WotC. Not to say Wizards isn't capable of making bad choices, but this smells like some exec trying to make next quarter's share price look shinier, which is mostly a pathology of big publicly traded companies rather than small tight-knit ones.
Originally Posted by Agent Elrond
Thursday, 15th December, 2011, 03:58 PM #75
Echoes my thoughts from the last two years. While Magic has enjoyed a recent resurgence, its clear that the need for shareholder satisfaction is beating the drum at Hasbro. The layoffs of their game division in East Longmeadow, MA earlier in the Spring were a heavy blow.
I think 4th edition was a good move in the right direction, but trying to pitch it and Red Box to a crowd of existing D&D players was relatively pointless. WOTC needs to aggressively pursue new customers with these products. Its a marketing issue, not a design issue.
Thursday, 15th December, 2011, 04:03 PM #76
World of Darkness for D&D, which will be as far removed from D&D as that book was from the World of Darkness.
~No one wins in the Edition Wars. The whole hobby loses.~ KT
Thursday, 15th December, 2011, 04:11 PM #77
Minor Trickster (Lvl 4)
I can add WotC's cold-hearted treatment of its employees, even the ones with 20+ years experience at the company, to the big pile of reasons of why I won't buy any more WotC products.
Thursday, 15th December, 2011, 04:12 PM #78
[QUOTE=D'karr;5750643]Monte Cook was not fired. He left on his own to seek better opportunities. Maybe he saw the writing on the wall, and preempted the firing, which I doubt by the way he mentioned his departure. Some of the people that have been laid off over the years are still working as free-lancers with the company.
I never said that Monte was fired, just that he was hired back. Anyway, I think we all can agree that this practice of firing people every six months (I think they've done a bunch of May/June layoffs in the past several years) is pretty despicable.
Thursday, 15th December, 2011, 04:18 PM #79
Thursday, 15th December, 2011, 04:36 PM #80
Hydra (Lvl 25)
Is it actually a financial issue for the company? Not generally. Unless everybody decided to leave (or had to be let go) at once and take that vacation as cash, it wouldn't actually have a major impact on the financial stability of the company.
But, how it looks on paper sometimes matters. Maybe how things look on paper matters, so that they really don't want to hold onto people into the new year. However, they don't want to let them go early, either, as then you lose their productivity.
I wont be surprised if, actually, they understand the issue, and are working to reduce it: Note how Monte Cook is working for WotC now, but he's freelance/consulting rather than a full-time employee? I'm now suspecting both WotC and Monte got it - letting a freelancer go when his assignment is done is not the same thing as letting a permanent employee go.
None of which makes this any better for Mr. Baker. I hope he finds something good, as some of his work has been excellent.
Last edited by Umbran; Thursday, 15th December, 2011 at 04:45 PM.